Whose votes does this swing (either way)?
This may move me from a likely Romney voter to actually providing some support since I view Ryan as one of the few politicians who has actually done anything to try and come up with ways to fix the budget.
Whose votes does this swing (either way)?
This may move me from a likely Romney voter to actually providing some support since I view Ryan as one of the few politicians who has actually done anything to try and come up with ways to fix the budget.
It will be interesting to see how they repackage him - draconian budgets and dumping Medicare for vouchers are probably not the best platforms for an election year.
I don't know why anyone would think a platform of destroying Medicare was a boffo selling point for a veep, but by Republican standards, he's a good choice.
Ryan is a great sell to the "I can take care of myself; you should, too" crowd. Destroying Medicare and slashing budgets matters little if you're the type of person who believes you'll never get old and sick, are willing to work at two or three jobs to make a living wage, are not a minority where you live, and don't know anyone among your family or friends who is disabled or in desperate need of psychological help. There are legions out there who believe that about themselves.
Success is to be measured not so much by the position that one has reached in life as by the obstacles which he has overcome. - Booker T. Washington
I know, I was PUMPED about this choice! Ryan is synonymous with fiscal restraint. Only Rubio would have been an equally good choice. They both represent young conservative common-sense guys plus Ryan is a Midwesterner, always a plus in my book. Way to go Mitt! I can see Romney putting Ryan on Capitol Hill to monitor, shape, and influence Congressional spending. Slap those sanctimonious MF's around, Paul! Pushing for responsible spending should be the VP's sole job, forget gadding about on diplomatic junkets.
As far as slashing Medicare, the changes he proposes do not affect those over 55 years old. Granny is not involved but SteveinMN please continue to have as the picture in your head pushing granny over the cliff if that's what makes you happy.
In order for there to BE a MEdicare program for the 30 years olds something's gotta happen. But I am as skeptical about his social engineering for our 30-years- into- the- future scene as I am about anyone else's plan. Paul Ryan has no crystal ball. But he is touching the thrid rail and someone has got to do it, take charge of that monstor for his own generation.
Last edited by iris lily; 8-11-12 at 12:49pm.
Unless something changes, most of us will be over 55 eventually, with the concomitant health concerns. Having to choose between medical care and a roof over your head isn't something I'd wish on anyone--even the dog-eat-dog crowd. I get the image of Granny on an ice floe, but there are fewer of those left..better get yours while you can.
I was a little surprised Rubio didn't get the nod, but I do think Ryan is a great choice. The media is playing up his lack of foreign policy experience. Along the lines of what Iris said, I would like to see him in 4 years still not having any foreign policy experience! Stay home and hawk the hell out of Congress. I think he can be a major influence helping get our budget back under control. And he's smart enough to turn his mic off.
I think it's worse than that - the trick with vouchers is you generally have to have money to use them. Kind of like the high risk insurance pools some states have - available, but expensive. It's a handout which restricts itself to those with the money to use it.Originally Posted by SteveinMN
I think he's a wonderful choice and am a little surprised that the sustainability crowd can't seem to appreciate his efforts to make social programs sustainable for the long haul, choosing instead to demonize the effort.
I'm also excited about his choice because now the opposing campaign will be forced to address the issues of the day rather than trying to make the opposing candidate out to be a felonious, dog hating, woman hating, non tax paying, evil capitalist. The Obama administration has been scared of Paul Ryan for the past several years as a result of his efforts to repair the country's current economic outlook and future liabilities. He will certainly change their focus, hopefully in a beneficial way.
The upcoming Presidential and Vice Presidential debates are going to be very enlightening, and entertaining as well.
"Things should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." ~ Albert Einstein
Says two things to me...
One, trying to get some excitement with the Tea Party and the rest of the base that Romney doesn't bring.
Two, throwing in the towel for this election and setting sights on the next with a candidate with a future.
That's just my hip shot analysis, mind you, so I could be wrong. I stopped paying attention to this race the moment it was apparent Romney was going to be the nominee. He doesn't have a shot in the world of being president.
"There are too many books in the world to read in a single lifetime; you have to draw the line somewhere." --Diane Setterfield, The Thirteenth Tale
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