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frugal-one
6-19-22, 1:36pm
Personally, I am happy masks are required in a medical setting. Patients who go there are sick. Not all are just there for physicals, etc.
rosarugosa
6-19-22, 3:44pm
Personally, I am happy masks are required in a medical setting. Patients who go there are sick. Not all are just there for physicals, etc.
Good point. The last time I got a head cold, it was right after accompanying my sister to the PCP's office back in 2019 before masks were a thing.
Anti-maskers will insist masks are ineffective, evidence to the contrary notwithstanding.
I am not firing my PCP until I find a new one. I am just not going to see her.
There are two City meetings this week held during regular business hours. I asked could I submit a public comment to be read at the meeting since I cannot attend and they said yes. I will watch the meetings later on video and see if they really read my remarks unedited.
Any other activists out there, this tip may work for you also.
iris lilies
6-22-22, 11:16am
I am not firing my PCP until I find a new one. I am just not going to see her.
Jeppy, I thought of you yesterday when I accompanied .DH to his physician’s appointment. There was a sign in the waiting room that said, paraphrasing “ You need to wear a mask while in the waiting room. If you do not want to wear a mask, you need to leave and come back when you are ready to wear a mask. “
It very much had the tone of scolding a four-year-old, sending him to his room, and telling him he can come back to the dinner table when he’s ready to behave.
Jeppy, I thought of you yesterday when I accompanied .DH to his physician’s appointment. There was a sign in the waiting room that said, paraphrasing “ You need to wear a mask while in the waiting room. If you do not want to wear a mask, you need to leave and come back when you are ready to wear a mask. “
It very much had the tone of scolding a four-year-old, sending him to his room, and telling him he can come back to the dinner table when he’s ready to behave.
I read a Twitter post today about a man who went for a prenatal visit with his wife and was told to wear a mask. He said he was exempt. They asked what is his medical condition that makes him exempt. He said, "CS". They said, "What's that?" and he replied, "Common sense".
I read a Twitter post today about a man who went for a prenatal visit with his wife and was told to wear a mask. He said he was exempt. They asked what is his medical condition that makes him exempt. He said, "CS". They said, "What's that?" and he replied, "Common sense".
So I’m their efforts to redefine words to suit their needs despite how ****ing stupid it makes them look republicans have now redefined common sense to mean ‘I’m a god damn asshole?’
Any random cloth or surgical mask doesn't stop an airborne virus = common sense.
Chicken lady
6-23-22, 6:42am
Act like a four year old, get treated like a four year old.
actually, most 4 year olds (the ones who are being raised in healthy nurturing environments anyway) have a strong sense of empathy, like rules, and are happy to do things for the benefit of other people.
Any random cloth or surgical mask doesn't stop an airborne virus = common sense.
That’s probably why most people that are still masking aren’t wearing those type of masks. They are wearing n95’s or kn95’s.
ApatheticNoMore
6-23-22, 9:06pm
That’s probably why most people that are still masking aren’t wearing those type of masks. They are wearing n95’s or kn95’s.
obviously, but the type of stuff asserted as common sense, can never be proven by "common sense". I mean imagine trying to prove things that need a great deal of science with "common sense".
That’s probably why most people that are still masking aren’t wearing those type of masks. They are wearing n95’s or kn95’s.
Because only severe covidians wear masks when they don't have to.
obviously, but the type of stuff asserted as common sense, can never be proven by "common sense". I mean imagine trying to prove things that need a great deal of science with "common sense".
Like so many words and phrases over the past several years which have lost their original meaning Republicans have twisted common sense to mean ‘my opinion when I disagree with subject matter experts.’
After all I’m a socialist commie because I live in California and vote Democratic despite the fact that I work at a job for a paycheck which I use to purchase products and services that I want or need, employed by a company that sells a service to willing buyers of that service, and I find that arrangement perfectly acceptable. But yeah, I’m a commie. Supposedly I’m also a sexual groomer because I prefer to have sex with men, despite the fact that I don’t particularly like children and interact with them as infrequently as possible.
You're not a groomer if you're gay. You're a groomer if you insist on doing nearly naked drag activities in close proximity to young children. Kids don't need to see adults in thongs up close and personal.
You're not a groomer if you're gay. You're a groomer if you insist on doing nearly naked drag activities in close proximity to young children. Kids don't need to see adults in thongs up close and personal.
Nearly naked drag activities? What kind of drag queens are you hanging out with?
Nearly naked drag activities? What kind of drag queens are you hanging out with?
I think someone has been going to Folsom Street Fair in their spare time, and then projecting....
I think someone has been going to Folsom Street Fair in their spare time, and then projecting....
Honestly her description sounds more like Dore Alley than Folsom.
Honestly her description sounds more like Dore Alley than Folsom.
Ssssshhhhh! Don't scare them :-)
Ssssshhhhh! Don't scare them :-)
She won’t be scared. The only masks I’ve ever seen at Dore were optional and very VERY much desired by the wearers of them.
Nearly naked drag activities? What kind of drag queens are you hanging out with?
Not me but in Canada:
https://www.christianheadlines.com/blog/10-year-old-child-drag-star-photographed-posing-with-naked-adult-drag-queen.html
In the US:
https://www.chicoer.com/2022/06/24/letter-drag-queen-world-no-place-for-kids
In Texas:
https://en-volve.com/2022/06/05/outrage-and-protests-erupt-after-vile-drag-show-in-texas-gay-bar-had-toddlers-tipping-half-naked-drag-queens/
I had no idea Christina Aguilera was a drag queen. And all the pics I've seen of the texas drag show in question had performers who were wearing way more clothes than a cheerleader at a football game. Considering the popularity of football in texas I wonder why conservative parents aren't getting all butthurt about that since far more children are exposed to cheerleaders than to drag queens.
I had no idea Christina Aguilera was a drag queen. And all the pics I've seen of the texas drag show in question had performers who were wearing way more clothes than a cheerleader at a football game. I've never seen a cheerleader perform while wearing a strap-on.
Serious question: What is the purpose of drag queen shows for kids? Is it just an attempt to normalize a *lifestyle* for future generations or is it a promotion of a lifestyle children may never have experienced, or perhaps both?
*Note I call it a lifestyle because I'm under the impression drag queens aren't necessarily trans or even gay. You can correct me on that if I'm wrong.
iris lilies
6-25-22, 2:00pm
I've never seen a cheerleader perform while wearing a strap-on.
Serious question: What is the purpose of drag queen shows for kids? Is it just an attempt to normalize a *lifestyle* for future generations or is it a promotion of a lifestyle children may never have experienced, or perhaps both?
*Note I call it a lifestyle because I'm under the impression drag queens aren't necessarily trans or even gay. You can correct me on that if I'm wrong.
Introducing a career aspiration.
I've never seen a cheerleader perform while wearing a strap-on.
Serious question: What is the purpose of drag queen shows for kids? Is it just an attempt to normalize a *lifestyle* for future generations or is it a promotion of a lifestyle children may never have experienced, or perhaps both?
*Note I call it a lifestyle because I'm under the impression drag queens aren't necessarily trans or even gay. You can correct me on that if I'm wrong.
IMO it's just an opportunity for adults to play dress up and for kids to enjoy the costumes. A library gimmick, maybe, but harmless.
ApatheticNoMore
6-25-22, 3:15pm
I've never seen a cheerleader perform while wearing a strap-on.
what earthly difference could that possibly make? Cheerleaders performing in skimpy outfits is definitely never necessary. I don't see the difference here. One serves the patriarchy. Well yes ..
Serious question: What is the purpose of drag queen shows for kids? Is it just an attempt to normalize a *lifestyle* for future generations or is it a promotion of a lifestyle children may never have experienced, or perhaps both?
well it's hard to say it does any harm either way.
I happened to find myself at a pride event recently at a community center (kind of checked it out because I was there, I wasn't specifically planning it), me and my cis male. There was a straight couple with kids, probably good liberals. Some youth. My congressperson making an appearance ha. There was no nudity or anything of the sort. So parents bring kids to a bar are like the links. I mean a bar, hell-o, since when it that supposed to be guaranteed to be family friendly in the U.S. (I mean some bars might okay-ish but you really have to know what you are getting into). And it is exposing kids to a lifestyle of alcohol use.
*Note I call it a lifestyle because I'm under the impression drag queens aren't necessarily trans or even gay. You can correct me on that if I'm wrong.
I believe you are correct. My father helped manage the Palm Springs Follies for many years, and many of the performers were men in drag, and those performers were not necessarily gay, or trans. They were however required to be 55+ years old, that was the main schtick of the theatrical company.
https://www.highonadventure.com/hoa13oct/theater/fabulous_palm_springs_follies.htm
Some of the east coast universities also have theatrical companies that have "drag" performers:
https://paw.princeton.edu/article/tradition-tradition
And we won't talk about what happens in the Bohemian Club at the Grove...
Serious question: What is the purpose of drag queen shows for kids? Is it just an attempt to normalize a *lifestyle* for future generations or is it a promotion of a lifestyle children may never have experienced, or perhaps both?
What is the purpose of cheerleaders? Is it to normalize a *lifestyle* for future generations, encouraging kids to think it's normal to have a sexualized side attraction at an event where boys/men chase an odd-shaped little ball around a field knocking other people over and giving them concussions?
Or why don't we talk about Hooters? There are 16 Hooters in the Dallas/Fort Worth area. They all allow children in what is definitely a sexualized environment unlike drag queen story hour. Far more grooming is going on there but I don't hear the anti-gay assholes screeching about that.
What is the purpose of cheerleaders? Is it to normalize a *lifestyle* for future generations, encouraging kids to think it's normal to have a sexualized side attraction at an event where boys/men chase an odd-shaped little ball around a field knocking other people over and giving them concussions?
Or why don't we talk about Hooters? There are 16 Hooters in the Dallas/Fort Worth area. They all allow children in what is definitely a sexualized environment unlike drag queen story hour. Far more grooming is going on there but I don't hear the anti-gay assholes screeching about that.
Or why don't we talk about the Catholic Church...?
early morning
6-25-22, 4:36pm
Some good points here. We seem to accept things we grew up with as "normal" without giving any thought to them. If we looked at many of our cultural events and traditions through a different lens, perhaps we'd be less quick to deride OTHER people's events/traditions. Ex: does it GET any creepier and more groomer-esque than Santa Claus? Old man wants kids to sit on his lap for candy while promising them all sorts of goodies they likely won't get? Personally, I prefer Drag Queen Story Hour! YMMV
Some good points here. We seem to accept things we grew up with as "normal" without giving any thought to them. If we looked at many of our cultural events and traditions through a different lens, perhaps we'd be less quick to deride OTHER people's events/traditions. Ex: does it GET any creepier and more groomer-esque than Santa Claus? Old man wants kids to sit on his lap for candy while promising them all sorts of goodies they likely won't get? Personally, I prefer Drag Queen Story Hour! YMMV
Then there's the whole beauty pageant culture....
early morning
6-25-22, 5:18pm
Then there's the whole beauty pageant culture.... Especially those for children, in which little girls are dressed up as adults with hose, heels, and makeup - mini Barbie dolls- sexualized to he!! and back. I have NEVER understood those things. But yeah, teachers are "groomers".
"We are all trained to be female impersonators"--Gloria Steinem
Filed ethics complaints against the chair of the Board of Health. He received $1 million to have a pharmacy chain administer vaccines under his medical license, easy $ as he never sees any of these patients. Then he mandated vaccines for people in the city, benefiting himself financially as many went for their shots to this, the largest chain in the area. (Including me for my second shot -ugh!) I got this information from a nurse whistleblower who approached me. I verified it with the pharmacy chain before complaining. Could not get any media interested. Media is pretty pathetic these days and with the demise of smaller newspapers we'll probably never get back what we lost.
Someone robbed one of our sister stores. Although there is surveillance video the police cannot catch him because he was wearing a mask.
It used to be masks could be banned in places like banks - no more.
The stupidity!
iris lilies
6-27-22, 3:39pm
Someone robbed one of our sister stores. Although there is surveillance video the police cannot catch him because he was wearing a mask.
It used to be masks could be banned in places like banks - no more.
The stupidity!
Please try to tell me the perps around here do not enjoy the wearing’ o’ the masks throughout their day and night. If you tell me that, I will not believe you. I mean this not only for jeppy but for anybody. The mask is very handy for them and their thieving, law breaking ways.
I wonder why robbers didn't think of wearing masks before covid?
iris lilies
6-27-22, 5:12pm
I wonder why robbers didn't think of wearing masks before covid?
Of course they did, but it was obvious something was amiss when we saw people walking around in masks.
Now it is just normal, and handy, face-hiding equipment that will not raise suspicion. Win-wi —-for the criminal!
In-depth information across all business types doesn’t seem to be readily available but banks don’t seem to have been targeted by robbers looking to take advantage of covid masks. The FBI crime stats show 2,440 bank robberies in 2019 and only 1,788 in 2020, continuing a several years’ long trend of decreasing bank robberies.
In-depth information across all business types doesn’t seem to be readily available but banks don’t seem to have been targeted by robbers looking to take advantage of covid masks. The FBI crime stats show 2,440 bank robberies in 2019 and only 1,788 in 2020, continuing a several years’ long trend of decreasing bank robberies.
Oh stop, stop with the real-world data!
iris lilies
6-27-22, 9:34pm
In-depth information across all business types doesn’t seem to be readily available but banks don’t seem to have been targeted by robbers looking to take advantage of covid masks. The FBI crime stats show 2,440 bank robberies in 2019 and only 1,788 in 2020, continuing a several years’ long trend of decreasing bank robberies.
For 10 days you should tune into Nextdoor posts for my area and you’ll see all the porch Pirates who are happily stealing crap while covered by facemasks. It used to be hoodies they wore, but now they don’t even have to do that, they can wear a facemask and dance down the street and no one thinks they look weird.
For 10 days you should tune into Nextdoor posts for my area and you’ll see all the porch Pirates who are happily stealing crap while covered by facemasks. It used to be hoodies they wore, but now they don’t even have to do that, they can wear a facemask and dance down the street and no one thinks they look weird.
https://midnightpunk.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/point-break-ex-presidents.jpg
For 10 days you should tune into Nextdoor posts for my area and you’ll see all the porch Pirates who are happily stealing crap while covered by facemasks. It used to be hoodies they wore, but now they don’t even have to do that, they can wear a facemask and dance down the street and no one thinks they look weird.
People in hoodies look weird? What, your neighborhood is full of George zimmerman’s?
People in hoodies look weird? What, your neighborhood is full of George zimmerman’s?
I read the text as "nobody thinks people in masks are weird now", and not that people in hoodies were weird, either then or now.
White supremacists descend on Boston hiding behind ... not hoods, but masks.
Called my doctor's office to see if they could do any of the following accommodations for me for my physical:
1. Telemedicine
2. In the parking lot
3. I stand outside a window and talk to the doctor through it
The answer to all is no. I rescheduled to mid November after the election in the hopes that a Republican thrashing of the Democrats will lead to a return to normalcy, but probably not in my state.
I still haven't found a provider in NH where there is no state mask mandate in healthcare settings.
The head of the World Health Organization said covid will outlive the human species, so these people really want us to wear masks forever. They suffer from safetyism - the idea that any magical talisman, however useless in real world settings, must be employed against the normal risks of life, such as respiratory viruses.
I visited my father in the hospital yesterday. He's been laid up there for two weeks now, awaiting a slot for very very important surgery. He may wait another 2-3 weeks for a slot to open up.
Everyone in the hospital, including visitors, was required to wear real masks - no bandanas and colorful scraps.
The big stumbling block everyplace here is the number of Covid patients occupying beds, the numbers of staff off sick, and the backlog of what would be regular admissions for illnesses and accidents. Hospitals are overwhelmed and overloaded. The hospital of 130 beds has a backlog of 40 patients in the hallways waiting for beds. Imagine the numbers waiting for beds at the big medical centers.... Which is where Dad needs to end up.
He is lucky to be in this small hospital with staff who are committed to getting him into the correct place down at our region's Level One Trauma center for the complex surgery and recovery.
I'm sorry Bae, what scary circumstances for your dad. I hope all goes well.
There are many staffing issues at hospitals. I know several nurses who no longer work in those settings. One was fired for not getting vaccinated. One went to work in a nursing call center with more regular others (and no need to wear a mask 8 hours a day). Another retired but was doing some per diem work but won't - thinks it's stupid that she as a vaccinated and boosted person would need to wear a mask. One retired to avoid a vaccine mandate.
The great resignation is real, and the overreaction to covid is a big part of it.
early morning
7-7-22, 10:07pm
I know - knew- a nurse. She refused the vaccine, refused to mask (although as a surgical nurse, she was ALWAYS masked before!!) and, before she had a chance to get fired, died of covid. We all know somebody who: (fill in the blanks).
Bae, I hope all goes well for your father! DH has surgery scheduled in August, and I'm worried.
ApatheticNoMore
7-7-22, 10:18pm
I'm not sure we want medical professionals who don't realized vaccinated and boosted people can get and spread this thing, more so with variants. I mean many people have had the experience where a reasonably informed layperson knows more than their nurses/doctors about what is wrong with them. But it's really not great medical care. They have the training and should be expected to know more than people without it. And so nurses who don't know you can spread it after vaccination even though plenty of ordinary people do. Not great.
I'm not sure we want medical professionals who don't realized vaccinated and boosted people can get and spread this thing, more so with variants. I mean many people have had the experience where a reasonably informed layperson knows more than their nurses/doctors about what is wrong with them. But it's really not great medical care. They have the training and should be expected to know more than people without it. And so nurses who don't know you can spread it after vaccination even though plenty of ordinary people do. Not great.
They shouldn't have listened to Fauci then. He was the one who said that.
Called my doctor's office to see if they could do any of the following accommodations for me for my physical:
1. Telemedicine
2. In the parking lot
3. I stand outside a window and talk to the doctor through it
When I get a physical, the following things are done (in addition to taking in of history which could be done through a window):
- blood tests (usually a separate visit to a lab)
- temperature, oxygen saturation, pulse, blood pressure are taken
- lymph nodes, abdomen, ankles are palpated
- heart and lungs are listened to
- ears, nose, throat and eyes are examined
- reflexes and strength are tested
How would you propose those items be done while you are standing outside? Or in a parking lot where none of the tools are available (because they are attached to the wall typically)?
iris lilies
7-8-22, 8:36am
When I get a physical, the following things are done (in addition to taking in of history which could be done through a window):
- blood tests (usually a separate visit to a lab)
- temperature, oxygen saturation, pulse, blood pressure are taken
- lymph nodes, abdomen, ankles are palpated
- heart and lungs are listened to
- ears, nose, throat and eyes are examined
- reflexes and strength are tested
How would you propose those items be done while you are standing outside? Or in a parking lot where none of the tools are available (because they are attached to the wall typically)?
jeppy doesn’t really propose these thing, she is just being ridiculous.
I visited my father in the hospital yesterday. He's been laid up there for two weeks now, awaiting a slot for very very important surgery. He may wait another 2-3 weeks for a slot to open up.
Everyone in the hospital, including visitors, was required to wear real masks - no bandanas and colorful scraps.
The big stumbling block everyplace here is the number of Covid patients occupying beds, the numbers of staff off sick, and the backlog of what would be regular admissions for illnesses and accidents. Hospitals are overwhelmed and overloaded. The hospital of 130 beds has a backlog of 40 patients in the hallways waiting for beds. Imagine the numbers waiting for beds at the big medical centers.... Which is where Dad needs to end up.
He is lucky to be in this small hospital with staff who are committed to getting him into the correct place down at our region's Level One Trauma center for the complex surgery and recovery.
I had no idea medical services were so tight around here! I hope a slot opens up as soon as possible for your father.
When I get a physical, the following things are done (in addition to taking in of history which could be done through a window):
- blood tests (usually a separate visit to a lab)
- temperature, oxygen saturation, pulse, blood pressure are taken
- lymph nodes, abdomen, ankles are palpated
- heart and lungs are listened to
- ears, nose, throat and eyes are examined
- reflexes and strength are tested
How would you propose those items be done while you are standing outside? Or in a parking lot where none of the tools are available (because they are attached to the wall typically)?
- I have not had blood tests in years
- Temperature can be taken with tool pointed at my head outside the window screen
- I have never had oxygen saturation test done
- Lift up the screen and I can put my arm through the window for pulse and blood pressure
- The doctor can put her arm through the window to check my lump nodes and abdomen (I have a ladder I can bring to stand on so my torso is at the height of the window - it's on the first floor)
- I can sit on the ladder and put my ankles through the window, though I don't recall my ankles ever being palpated. Reflexes can be tested this way also
- Stethoscope can be extended through the window
- I go separately for eye exams
- Examination of nose and throat are apparently a thing of the past - since masking is so sacred - good luck if you have an issue in those areas of your body
iris lilies
7-8-22, 11:18am
- I have not had blood tests in years
- Temperature can be taken with tool pointed at my head outside the window screen
- I have never had oxygen saturation test done
- Lift up the screen and I can put my arm through the window for pulse and blood pressure
- The doctor can put her arm through the window to check my lump nodes and abdomen (I have a ladder I can bring to stand on so my torso is at the height of the window - it's on the first floor)
- I can sit on the ladder and put my ankles through the window, though I don't recall my ankles ever being palpated. Reflexes can be tested this way also
- Stethoscope can be extended through the window
- I go separately for eye exams
- Examination of nose and throat are apparently a thing of the past - since masking is so sacred - good luck if you have an issue in those areas of your body
This is just silly.
I know very little about health procedures, but no physician is going to jump through all these hoops to get a less than thorough exam of you if they’re supposed to be conducting a thorough exam. I can’t remember why you’re doing this anyway. What is the impetus for you visiting the physician? I just don’t remember.
Just don’t go. PERIOD.
This is just silly.
I know very little about health procedures, but no physician is going to jump through all these hoops to get a less than thorough exam of you if they’re supposed to be conducting a thorough exam. I can’t remember why you’re doing this anyway. What is the impetus for you visiting the physician? I just don’t remember.
Just don’t go. PERIOD.
I have to have a physical every two years or my employer charges me $5 more per week in health insurance premiums. The annual cost is $260.00.
That is why I will not travel out to Missouri - it would cost me more in gas and lodging than I would save.
Got another call from another New Hampshire doctor's office yesterday - no go. It is freer there than in Massachusetts but not as free as I would like. There has been talk in the past of my company expanding south and if they do that and I could transfer to someplace like South Carolina that might be better. But no word of that lately.
I'd just pay the extra $260. It would be worth it to me.
I'm glad I escaped employment before this type of coercion was commonplace.
I was quite pleased to see how well basic sanitation and PPE protocols were being followed at the hospital. If a medical professional can't follow those, they simply shouldn't be working in the field.
iris lilies
7-8-22, 1:45pm
I was quite pleased to see how well basic sanitation and PPE protocols were being followed at the hospital. If a medical professional can't follow those, they simply shouldn't be working in the field.
Oh gosh I guess I should tell my physician and her entire staff this. I’m sure that will cause them to hop to it and put on their masks
Oh gosh I guess I should tell my physician and her entire staff this. I’m sure that will cause them to hop to it and put on their masks
Perhaps they aren't practicing in the same environment, and are following the appropriate rules for their setting?
Protocols, well, generally have provisions for a wide variety of circumstances. I know the ones I practice under do.
The hospital wing I was in wasn't the "cuts-and-scrapes" bandaid dispensary....
Let's fire all the people who don't do exactly what we want. It will make the labor shortage so much better!!! Just like firing all the unvaccinated did.
I'd just pay the extra $260. It would be worth it to me.
I'm glad I escaped employment before this type of coercion was commonplace.
I've decided to take your advice. I started a separate thread. Thank you.
Teacher Terry
7-8-22, 8:25pm
Just returned from vacation to a very interesting thread:)). Bae, hoping your father can get his surgery soon.
happystuff
7-10-22, 9:28am
bae, hope your dad is able to get his surgery soon.
Some guys at work were talking. One guy said it's hard to mow his lawn because of his allergies. He used to wear a mask but he just can't anymore after being forced to. Another guy said he is the same way. Even when working with tools that kick up a lot of dust he won't anymore. He's had enough.
Some guys at work were talking. One guy said it's hard to mow his lawn because of his allergies. He used to wear a mask but he just can't anymore after being forced to. Another guy said he is the same way. Even when working with tools that kick up a lot of dust he won't anymore. He's had enough.
I think the proper term for that is “natural selection”.
frugal-one
7-27-22, 2:57pm
...or stupidity.
Instead of my usual whiney whine I decided to go to a New Hampshire open house. As JP says, I should move somewhere else.
It would cost more than I would get from my existing home and would be a downgrade.
The only pluses are it is in a nicer (though by no means upscale) community where I could be more free and it has 1.5 baths.
It is along a busy road and I am guessing used to be a commercial property but is now converted to a house because of small, weird closets. One sloped inwards. None had any poles to hang your clothes on.
It's by a lake and on septic and also has a rusting out oil tank with a bucket underneath to catch the drips. Can you say environmental disaster?
It's smaller, has less land, has a gravel driveway, and electric hot water. The nearest neighbor is a convenience store. The basement was filled with construction debris, falling down insulation, etc. There is no internet hookup though it's on the street. The max speed offered is 1G (which I think is low?? Does anyone know?) and there is no competition so it's expensive.
Well now I know.
Do you have any particular towns or cities you're attracted to in the "Live Free Or Die" state?
Here's a list of affordable cities according to home prices to income ratios
https://www.newhomesource.com/learn/affordable-cities-new-hampshire/
I am looking for a town, since most of the cities had municipal mask mandates at one time. Cheshire County is my target area as it would be a similar or better commute for me.
Taxes are lower and there is a co-op for electric and broadband further north, but that would not be commuting distance for me. It could work down the road when I retire.
iris lilies
7-31-22, 7:52pm
I am looking for a town, since most of the cities had municipal mask mandates at one time. Cheshire County is my target area as it would be a similar or better commute for me.
Taxes are lower and there is a co-op for electric and broadband further north, but that would not be commuting distance for me. It could work down the road when I retire.
I don’t know how it works out in your part of the country, but in my part of the country you would want an unincorporated area. The county isn’t going to put mask mandates in place in rural areas for the most part. But then, with unincorporated comes big plots of land that makes an expensive property, and you don’t need acreage.
I don’t see why you’d be basing your search on what town once had a mask mandate. But whatever. I do think that this sort of thing would be less likely in the “ live free or die “state.
The main reason I want to move is so I can live free of government mandates that infringe on my bodily integrity.
I am not aware of any unincorporated areas in either MA or NH.
iris lilies
7-31-22, 9:33pm
The main reason I want to move is so I can live free of government mandates that infringe on my bodily integrity.
I am not aware of any unincorporated areas in either MA or NH.
wait…ya’ll do not have unincorporated areas? We may be having a problem with the terminology you and I are using.
In my part of the world, and granted this is flyover country so there’s minimal government restrictions in some of these places, there is no municipality covering much of the real estate.
For instance if I live in a specific place outside of any municipality the only government I have to answer to is the county. And in many cases the county has lax restrictions in whatever. But all of them have a building code of some sort. For instance.
Are you saying that every place in your area is under jurisdiction of a municipality IN ADDITION to a county government.?
If that is the case whoa Nelly, get out of there.
We have villages within cities and towns with their own zip code, but they are still under the government of their parent, not the county. In Mass counties have been largely abolished - only exist for courts and jails.
NH has a few unincorporated places in the far northern mountains. The most famous is Dixville Notch. That is not the part of the state I am looking at.
If you really want to be free you should move to the unorganized borough in Alaska. Roughly half the land in the state doesn’t have the equivalent of counties so the only governmental entity in control is the state.
The cost of living is too high in Alaska. And I like my job and want to stay within commuting distance of it. That limits me to Massachusetts, New Hampshire or Vermont, and New Hampshire is the freest of the three.
In that list I posted of affordable towns in NH, Keene is in the county you're targeting. Is that too far northwest for you? Also, how far are you willing to travel for shopping, etc. I am in a rural area, but being only 30 minutes from "civilization" is great. I don't think I'd be able to live out in the boonies in a strict sense. And how far are you willing to travel to work?
I am willing to go 1 hour to work as I am now, though would prefer closer. Shopping distance is not a big deal.
Keene State College has lobbied the City to impose their wokeness, with resulting mask mandates among other things.
College towns usually do have a lot of good things going for them though. As you get older, you'll probably place more value on walkability, availability of senior services, good medical care, etc. Some of those things will probably come to be even more important to you than whether there was a mask mandate during Covid, hard as it may be to believe.
The problem is it's not a one and done with masks. Nutcase Walensky (on international flights) and others (in schools) have wanted masks to protect against monkeypox which is not spread through droplets but through sustained skin to skin contact or sharing clothing or bedding. These folks need to go for deprogramming.
iris lilies
8-1-22, 11:25pm
The problem is it's not a one and done with masks. Nutcase Walensky (on international flights) and others (in schools) have wanted masks to protect against monkeypox which is not spread through droplets but through sustained skin to skin contact or sharing clothing or bedding. These folks need to go for deprogramming.
Who is Walemsky?
Who is Walemsky?
The CDC director. After massive criticism of her stupid monkeypox mask recommendation she backed down.
Drove around some cheaper towns in NH but they are too rural for my taste. Among other things it would be hard for me to get to work in the winter. So I am back to dreaming of the town out of my price range, hoping the market goes down.
Finally my state has lifted quarantine/isolation requirements for "close contacts". We now have the common sense policy we should have had all along - if you are sick, stay home.
We still have medical mask mandates, including the ultimate in stupidity, at the dentist's office, where as soon as they start working on your teeth the mask has to come off.
Some school districts also have some mandates. Cambridge, MA forces kids to get vaccinated if they want to participate in extracurricular activities.
We're not to normal yet, but are making some headway. Unfortunately there are people who want to wallow in covid because they are anxiety prone or profit from it. It will never be over for them.
Adults are going to court today in Springfield, MA for a procedural matter (appeal on motion to dismiss) after being arrested for trying to enter the court unmasked. They were nonviolent, polite and persistent in their civil disobedience.
We're not going away.
The anti-mask, anti-vax "freedom fighters" who trespassed at our two grocery stores, our pharmacy, and our two medical care facilities are banned for life from those locations now. Sucks to be them, since this is a small island 1.5 hours away from the mainland.
Perhaps the swim through freezing killer-whale-infested waters will prove instructional to them.
The great thing about a protest at the courthouse is if they arrest you, they have to see you again when you go to court - and sometimes again and again depending how long the judicial process takes. They can't just ban you. And then when they call you up for jury duty etc.
Sounds like the energizer bunny. But just as humpty trumpty is going to eventually fall off the wall eventually the energizer bunny will die and everyone will cheer.
My local government hasn't improved. But I don't hate my house anymore because it looks good in comparison to what I've seen in open houses in my price range. If I could just teleport the house to a freer community I'd be happy. But still trying to bloom where I am planted. I am a consultant of sorts to various political neophytes running for local office in the hopes of changing things.
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