The Aryan Nation is comprised of humans too. Should the Aryan Nation be given human rights?
The Aryan Nation is comprised of humans too. Should the Aryan Nation be given human rights?
Access to health care trumps (no reference to Mr. Trump) increasing shareholder wealth. I find it literally terrifying that many Americans don't understand this. RobOriginally Posted by LDAHL
Last edited by gimmethesimplelife; 6-10-16 at 8:29pm.
You guys remind me of the many domestic disputes I had to respond to. The only way to resolve the argument was to first separate the parties and then look for common ground. And try to do that without getting stabbed, shot or assaulted.
In a way, both of you are right. The only responsibility of business, corporations and executives is to increase profits for the shareholders. As long as it is done in open and free competition without cheating and fraud. And here is where the other side is right. Our current model does not resemble anything like free and open competition.
First off, government threw that baby out with the bath water when they bailed out companies/corporations and executives who chose to take great risk with the shareholders money and lost it. The bailout reinforced attitudes that greater risk than reason would imply can be taken because you could expect to be too big to fail.
Second, shareholders are now prevailing upon their employees, the executives to apply certain social responsibilities to their customers and employees /workers. To be sure, there are still shareholders amongst them that want to simply maximize their profit but stockholders are increasingly becoming socially aware of the needs of their customers. And to some extent it can be a smart strategy for a company to at least fein interest in the environment, wealth redistribution or social issues.
But today's stockholder is increasingly demanding that a balance be struck between the strict rule of maximizing profit and the acceptance of some social responsibility. An executive cannot act in a way to satisfy both views. A political resolution must evolve. The Supreme Court opened Pandora's box further when it allowed corporations to act as individual lobbyists. So to enjoy the benefits of individuality without incurring the social responsibilities of individuals is inconsistent with free and open competition.
Liberals are simply calling out the cheating and hypocracy of it all.
A member of the Aryan Nations, the CEO of IBM and the Executive Director of the National Rifle Association, along with their respective memberships have rights identical to yours. Otherwise the concept of rights becomes meaningless.
The wealth generated by corporations goes to make individuals richer, to fund pensions and retirement accounts, to create insurance reserves, to fund endowments and to pay the taxes needed to fund the things you consider yours by right. Why do your interests supersede any of those purposes? Why shouldn't anyone have the right to purchase services from any source they choose?
But I thought rights were only for people we liked? And people we don't like get to go to the camps to be re-educated and learn how to dig ditches and stuff.
Now I know you are just goofing around.
I'm deadly serious. What's the point of the YMOYL paradigm if not to gain your freedom through membership in the rentier class?
Exactly so.
I used to build companies from scratch that employed thousands or tens of thousands of people by the time I moved on to the next. (And I couldn't have built them without the help of "evil" investment bankers/Wall Street/shareholders/pension funds/...).
One day I read YMOYL. I sold off my interests in my enterprises a few months later, and "retired" as suggested in YMOYL to reclaim the rest of my life for myself. That was 16+ years ago or so.
Now, I'm clearly not doing my "duty" to society as some envision it, because I'm not busting my ass 80+ hours a week building new technologies, creating new jobs, and so on. I'm not performing fully "according to my ability".
Luckily I already know how to dig ditches and plow fields, so I should be OK when they come to take me to the camps.
"Human rights are not worthy of the name if they do not protect the people we don't like as well as those we do."
- Trevor Phillips
"IRS Apologizes to Tea Party Groups Over Audits of Applications for Tax Exemption"
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/11/us...on-audits.html
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