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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    That's a hateful thing to say, especially in the context of the shootings of the Dallas police officers yesterday. Sickening really.

    It'd serve you right if police, fire, ems just withdrew from your neighborhood entirely - you've indicated in previous postings you live in terror of them, wouldn't call them to aid a neighbor, and mostly want to fight crime with cell phones. Maybe you should put some sort of sign on your door telling first responders you don't ever want to interact with them.
    And it's not hateful for cops to shoot at whim for no real reason and often face no consequences? I'm not following you, Bae. At least my suggestions don't cost them their lives, unlike their actions can and do for innocent Americans every day. Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife View Post
    And it's not hateful for cops to shoot at whim for no real reason and often face no consequences?
    I did not say that, now did I? (And your statement/question reeks of "When did you stop beating your wife?"...)

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    Instead of attacking Rob why not address some of the issues in this complicated matter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teacher Terry View Post
    Instead of attacking Rob why not address some of the issues in this complicated matter?
    What issues would you have me address?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teacher Terry View Post
    Instead of attacking Rob why not address some of the issues in this complicated matter?
    Thank You, Terry. And I agree with you - this is a complicated matter, it's not all easily cut and dry. Rob

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    Some of the issues on both sides that I mentioned in 2 of my posts earlier today. If there was one quick easy solution I think we would have found it by now. Also suing for lots of $ or throwing cops out of the country are not going to work either. Police need to be held to a standard and if they kill people without cause they need to go to prison just like anyone else.

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    His manifesto reads like a Hippocratic Oath for police officers, though I might not refer to "toxic masculinity."

    http://www.theatlantic.com/health/ar...m_source=atlfb

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    http://journals.plos.org/plosone/art...e-0141854-g008

    Interesting study on the likelihood of getting shot by police. Apparently unarmed black men are about 3.49 times more likely to be shot by cops than unarmed white men.

    And overall they found that armed white men are about equally likely to be shot by cops as unarmed black men. The differences vary quite a bit by county, but a few counties stood out as especially disparate. From that part of the study:

    "It is notable that Miami-Dade (FL, contains Miami), Harris (TX, contains Houston), and Cook (IL, contains Chicago), stand out as counties where the ratio of {black, unarmed, and shot by police} to {white, armed, and shot by police} is elevated to 19.08"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teacher Terry View Post
    Some of the issues on both sides that I mentioned in 2 of my posts earlier today. If there was one quick easy solution I think we would have found it by now. Also suing for lots of $ or throwing cops out of the country are not going to work either. Police need to be held to a standard and if they kill people without cause they need to go to prison just like anyone else.
    I thought about your post here for a couple of days before responding. It's not an easy post for me to respond to as in theory I agree with you 100 percent, i.e., if we could just place cops who kill for no reason into prison I'd be content with that. Good luck with that......most often police seem to have license to kill, whether appropriate or not, with little to no consequence.

    Huge settlements are necessary as retaliation against a system in which there are no real checks or balances upon police power. I'd love to have officers who kill on the flimsiest of excuses or for no reason whatsoever stripped of their citizenship, and exiled from the US, stateless and forced to live in a refugee camp for years. This to me, though I realize this would never happen in real life, would be appropriate retaliation that would cause such officers to suffer but would keep them alive, unlike their victims.

    My overall point here is for those who don't understand, this issue has spiraled into dispensing appropriate retaliation at this point as America had proved repeatedly that the lives of innocent people of a certain race are not worth fixing this problem. Watch for retaliation to become worse and more brazen as America has made it clear that there is no hope for change. Rob

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