SCOTUS takes on Prop 8 & DOMA!

[jp1]

I disagree. Be you gay or straight, we all are bound by the same rules of engagement.

The problem is that governments, local and national, have gotten involved in something that was not their concern. We allowed it to proffer benefits and entitlements to heterosexual couples only then complain about certain exclusions. What we should be complaining about is the intrusion of government into the most basic human condition.

Since you think that government shouldn't be involved in marriage would it be safe to assume that you, in fact, have chosen not to get married? If you're not married, great. If so, how do you reconcile your feelings on this topic with your actions, and how do you justify denying others the same ability to take advantage of a government benefit/entitlement that you yourself took advantage of?

[rodeosweetheart]

Would this affect those folks who wish to enter in plural marriage?

[Alan]

Since you think that government shouldn't be involved in marriage would it be safe to assume that you, in fact, have chosen not to get married? If you're not married, great. If so, how do you reconcile your feelings on this topic with your actions, and how do you justify denying others the same ability to take advantage of a government benefit/entitlement that you yourself took advantage of?

I've been married for 36 years and honestly don't have anything to reconcile, nor have I made any effort to justify denying others the same ability. Do you feel that there should be no restrictions on marriage, or would it be ok if certain restrictions remain excepting whichever ones you prefer?

[jp1]

I think any two adults who want to should be able to get married, possibly with a very limited exception for blood relatives.

As a conservative, I'm against our government treating anyone differently, be they rich, poor, straight, gay, black, white, brown, etc. (Actually what I really don't understand is why so many liberals are in favor of identity politics as this is exactly what it always leads to.)

So then you are in favor of DOMA being struck down? As can be seen from the example being heard by the supreme court this year obviously gay people ARE being treated differently by our government with regards to marriage. In this particular case $360,000 different.

[Alan]

So then you are in favor of DOMA being struck down?

I thought I was clear on that. The government should not be in the business of enforcing social conventions, although marriage is a tricky business. Should I be able to marry my sister (if I had one), or perhaps my adult daughter? Should you be able to marry multiple spouses?

There are valid restrictions on marrying close relatives due to the risk of damage to the gene pool, although what if one or both parties were incapable of reproducing, would that make it OK?

If we take the government out of our choices, are all choices valid?

[gimmethesimplelife]

Just wanted to say I am taking quite a bit of joy at the thought of these same sex couples up in Washington State getting legally married.....I am of the opinion that I may very well be going through this life alone, but how nice it is to see others getting married. Honestly, there was a time not too long ago in which I thought I would never live to see this happen in the US.....Ditto for gays and lesbians being allowed to serve openly in the military. So there is more hope right there. Rob

[redfox]

http://www.flickr.com/groups/marriedinseattle/pool/

recent photos in Seattle!

[redfox]

If we take the government out of our choices, are all choices valid?

Yes. It's called anarchy. Somalia is a good example.

Marriage equality is here. We're witnessing the evolution of human & civil rights. It's a good thing.

[gimmethesimplelife]

Yes. It's called anarchy. Somalia is a good example.

Marriage equality is here. We're witnessing the evolution of human & civil rights. It's a good thing.

I couldn't agree with you more, Redfox.....Will be interesting to see the reaction of some of the more conservative states if this becomes a nationwide thing.....Rob

[Alan]

Marriage equality is here. We're witnessing the evolution of human & civil rights. It's a good thing.

How far will the evolution take us? Is there a point where you would say 'No more!', not from a legal sense but from a moral standpoint?