Peggy, I wanted to add that while I agree that no woman should be made to do an ultrasound to determine fetal age prior to an abortion if another method is available, I can not see how anyone can equate one states requirement for that to a multinational legal system affecting millions and millions of people worldwide. There is no comparison between requiring an ultra sound before abortion and stoning a married woman to death for adultery because she was gang raped. So while I thought both your articles were worth discussion seperately, the way you tied them together and the general gist of your OP made me believe it was an attempt at inflamming, baiting, and bashing republicans (and I say that as a democrat and Obama supporter) rather then serious discussion. Again, I apologise if my attempt at light hearted humor offended you, I was just joking as I do enjoy the interaction between you and Alan. I often find it very enlightening and I learn a lot. So I'll save my crappy jokes for other areas of these forums :-)