Obamacare, or, I might be up a creek w/o a paddle

[try2bfrugal]

There is an exemption in states that have elected not to expand Medicaid for those who are under the amount in which the exchanges will accept you. In Texas over a million people will be falling through this huge crack in the system. And in Texas crossing the border to get health care is very terrifying - they don't have a Los Algodones to go to like I do - the towns that border Texas are full of cartel activity. I am so ashamed of the states in which human life is worth so little, and am glad to live in one that expanded Medicaid. How could I live in a state that didn't opt for it's expansion, morally, spiritually, and financially? Rob

I think once it is up and running in the states that have chosen expansion many lower income workers will see it as a godsend. Right now not enough people understand how they will benefit.

I just read that even under current programs 2/3 of uninsured children that are eligible for existing programs are not signed up. But maybe the publicity with the ACA will improve those numbers.

[redfox]

And luckily for you, you can now simply add the cost of your healthcare to my tab. Would it be out of place for me to ask that you exercise more and eat better, you know, positive steps to limit my liability?

Sure... If I lived in a safe neighborhood, I'd like to walk places. Like to a good grocery store... but those don't exist in my neighborhood. Many of my neighbors rely on food banks to get calories enough to survive. How about in exchange, you change your behavior & limit my liability by getting rid of your guns?

[gimmethesimplelife]

Sure... If I lived in a safe neighborhood, I'd like to walk places. Like to a good grocery store... but those don't exist in my neighborhood. Many of my neighbors rely on food banks to get calories enough to survive. How about in exchange, you change your behavior & limit my liability by getting rid of your guns?

+1000 Very well said, Redfox! Rob

[try2bfrugal]

And luckily for you, you can now simply add the cost of your healthcare to my tab. Would it be out of place for me to ask that you exercise more and eat better, you know, positive steps to limit my liability?

Alan, do you have some life time guarantee of health insurance some how? Don't you think it is possible some day you or someone you love, might develop a pre-existing condition, or have some financial catastrophe and need help with health insurance yourself some day?

Don't you feel any empathy or concern for a family working minimum wage jobs without insurance and a child with cancer?

[gimmethesimplelife]

Alan, do you have some life time guarantee of health insurance some how? Don't you think it is possible some day you or someone you love, might develop a pre-existing condition, or have some financial catastrophe and need help with health insurance yourself some day?

Don't you feel any empathy or concern for a family working minimum wage jobs without insurance and a child with cancer?

+1 Rob I honestly can not understand those folks out there who don't understand this wisdom that you have posted here try2befrugal. Thank you for shedding very human light on this issue.

[ApatheticNoMore]

And luckily for you, you can now simply add the cost of your healthcare to my tab. Would it be out of place for me to ask that you exercise more and eat better, you know, positive steps to limit my liability?

well the plan is continued employer subsidy, but yea sure while there are even more perfect people than me in terms of health habits, I'm a pretty good model of a healthy lifestyle (my weaknesses: stress!!! and sugar usually in the form of chocolate bars). But I eat boatloads of food made with good ingredients from scratch, lots of veggies, etc.. I often walk at breaks at work, the area is polluted (from car exhaust of course), so it's not ideal, but it's exercise (and while the sun is still out so better for circadian rhythms). If anything I've been exercising more, adding 10 minutes of walking in the morning sun near my place before I head to work when I can (again circadian rhythms), and stretching in the evening (for anxiety before bed). I'll walk at all hours here if I have mental energy to burn, but it's safe as I rent where I could *NEVER* afford to buy (and I may pay the price financially for that).

[Alan]

Sure... If I lived in a safe neighborhood, I'd like to walk places. Like to a good grocery store... but those don't exist in my neighborhood. Many of my neighbors rely on food banks to get calories enough to survive. How about in exchange, you change your behavior & limit my liability by getting rid of your guns?

I'm sorry you live in a bad neighborhood but since I live about 2400 miles away and have zero impact on your health, safety or well-being, I'm not sure how to fix that for you, although I'm willing to try. Would it help if I sent you one of my guns and considered voting for Hillary in 2016? Other than that, I'm at a loss as to what behavior I could change for you.

[iris lilies]

...I just read that even under current programs 2/3 of uninsured children that are eligible for existing programs are not signed up. But maybe the publicity with the ACA will improve those numbers.

My state advertises those insurance programs for qualifying children, advertises on tv.

[iris lilies]

I'm sorry you live in a bad neighborhood but since I live about 2400 miles away and have zero impact on your health, safety or well-being, I'm not sure how to fix that for you, although I'm willing to try. Would it help if I sent you one of my guns and considered voting for Hillary in 2016? Other than that, I'm at a loss as to what behavior I could change for you.

Don't you dare vote for Hilary!

[Alan]

Don't you dare vote for Hilary!

Ha, I only promised to consider, not that I would actually do it.