Quote Originally Posted by redfox View Post
Yes, living in fear of not having the ability to provide for one's basic human needs is immoral.
I thought about this statement and I am not sure I agree with you 100%. People work hard to be able to own a nice house in a good neighborhood, buy good food, and save for a rainy day. Others show less personal responsibility. What I find so crazy about all of this is many who complain think nothing of going out to eat a few times a week, drive nicer cars than I ever did, drink alcohol etc. yet don't want to pay for healthcare. It is a service, with many people who work hard to provide it. There is a huge spectrum of people in all kinds of circumstances so broad generalizations don't fit, and many people have tried to do the right thing and in the old insurance world were priced out or were denied insurance altogether no matter how hard they were willing to work. the basic problem I think with healthcare and many things are all the middlemen. If you could go to the md and pay for a visit with cash, it would remove all the people in between that need to be paid. Insurance companies have to support huge buildings full of workers with telephones, computers etc. MD offices have staff specifically to deal with insurance companies, and much time is spent figuring out what is covered, complex billing and referrals. It is all just so complicated. Although I disagree with many of the positions and tactics of the tea party, I can at least understand the basic premise that a system cannot give everything to everybody. One only need to look at some of the European countries to see their budget woes and realize that most systems have some flaws that are causing countries to have severe financial woes. All of this posturing is hiding the really big problem, we have to get our financial houses in order, from the citizens house to the county, state, up to the White House. I don't think this is the way to do it, but we at least have to face up to the reality that living on borrowed money is not very smart.