<not speaking as a mod or admin> I'm not sure we will ever have the health care that other countries do. We are really a center-right country, and the center-right viewpoint is less government, lower taxes, more security and military, and less paying for stuff for other people. If they want to pay for charity for someone, they'll do it on their own or through a charity organization. And that is the bottom line. The fact that you or I are willing to share through our taxes to improve the well being of others is moot. Center-right is the majority here, they ain't willing, and that's that. The divide is deep. I don't think we liberals will ever hold the majority in Congress for very long. We can move elsewhere, or we can get used to the facts.