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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    Any bets on how long before The New Black Panther Party issues a $10,000 reward for his head, like they did for Zimmerman?

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/...orge-zimmerman
    Don't drop dead of shock on this one here Bae but I'm going to agree with you here. In a way. If the NPB does this, this is far excessive behavior on the other side of the equation.....definitely not helping the black community or helping find some kind of justice for the death of the young man. This to me is even worse than the assault/arrest on the two journalists in Ferguson by local police - who knows how much will have to be paid out in those legal settlements, btw - as it condones yet another death. I'm not ok with that as having the cop dead is not going to bring back Michael Brown. Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    Ask yourself, when looking at the social media frenzy and "perception" - cui bono....
    As a waiter for so many years, constantly and continually vulnerable to the concept of guest perception, I can understand the concept and how BOTH sides here are not helping their side. Does it help the black community that last night there was more looting and rioting? Does it help local law enforcement that those two journalists were assaulted and arrested at the Ferguson McDonald's? Neither side here is innocent and there don't seem to be any angels here - here's the BUT......with all the economic inequality in the US today it's going to be easier for many to side AGAINST the cops, regardless of race. There is a perception many have of general unfairness in the US these days - it could be debated for days and days if this is valid, but the perception is indeed there, and perception unfortunately becomes fact to the person perceiving it. As for the upcoming legal proceedings, I will be interested in the outcome of course but have absolutely no faith or trust or belief in the legal system.

    INTERESTING ASIDE: When did I lose my faith in the legal system? When OJ Simpson walked free back in the mid 90's. I realized then that legal outcomes could be bought and I lost all faith in the legal system. Who did I side with during the Simpson trial? WITH THE PROSECUTION. Believe it or not. My point here is that this is not an automatic race thing for me. Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife View Post
    Neither side here is innocent ...
    Consider that it is entirely possible that both "sides" are pawns. Seeing only two sides here may be a mistake as well. Cui bono.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    Consider that it is entirely possible that both "sides" are pawns. Seeing only two sides here may be a mistake as well. Cui bono.
    Interesting post here, Bae.....How many sides do you see? Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife View Post
    Interesting post here, Bae.....How many sides do you see? Rob
    The Ferguson governing establishment has different self-interests than the policemen who shot the kid. It's not as though he and they are aligned, necessarily.

    And of course, within that establishment would be many points of view and self-interests: the police chief, the mayor, aldermen.

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    And don't forget the police union, the local chamber of commerce, local real estate interests, local/regional development folks, national "community organizers" who live for these sorts of events, political parties of all levels with axes to grind, media that wants to sell clicks, the Illuminati and the Bohemian Grovers, Know-Nothings, anarchists, socialists, facists, fnord, and the League of Women Voters.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    And don't forget the police union, the local chamber of commerce, local real estate interests, local/regional development folks, national "community organizers" who live for these sorts of events, political parties of all levels with axes to grind, media that wants to sell clicks, the Illuminati and the Bohemian Grovers, Know-Nothings, anarchists, socialists, facists, fnord, and the League of Women Voters.

    yep, all of that. The Police union is taking potshots at the St. Louis City Police Chief for his remarks about this series of events. There are lots of players, sides, points of view.

    Another one is this: The county prosecutor who is in charge of handling the case lost his father, a police officer, when that officer was killed on duty by a black man. The county prosecutor was 12 years old when that happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    yep, all of that. The Police union is taking potshots at the St. Louis City Police Chief for his remarks about this series of events. There are lots of players, sides, points of view.

    Another one is this: The county prosecutor who is in charge of handling the case lost his father, a police officer, when that officer was killed on duty by a black man. The county prosecutor was 12 years old when that happened.
    Seems like the more we learn about all the details, the more the plot thickens. Rob

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    What good is an autopsy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CathyA View Post
    What good is an autopsy?
    The nature of the gunshot wounds will provide some important physical evidence to help evaluate the likelihood of the various scenarios.

    There may also be other physical evidence reflecting upon the nature of the conflict.

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