Exactly! Like all of the positive changes we saw as a result of Occupy Whatever. In fact, I'm surprised that very successful social movement didn't keep The Ferguson Police Department from doing whatever the rioters think they are doing.Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife
Bar-nee! Bar-nee! Bar-nee
Yeah, But: Do you kids remember the episode of AGS when Andy left town, and Barney was in charge? Ol' Barn proceeded to take a tough-on-crime approach, and ended up jailing darn near the entire cast of the show, for whatever infraction he could charge 'em with! Just in case you missed it...
Looks like they had another fun night in Ferguson. Only two two shot though, 37 arrested. Why can't the cops just let the people throw bricks, Molotov cocktails, and shoot at them? Don't they know they might get sued from Robs buddies.
Who do the people from the good side of town sue who's property values are dropping like a rock. The section 8 apartment tenants don't have any money. What about the store owners who have been looted? Maybe they could go after some of robs buddies who he thinks are going to get a windfall from all this. If anyone does sue it will make a big difference if it's tried in the city or county.
If a photographer from Getty or a reporter from CNN or for that matter, the family of Michael Brown sue, what good does that do? I hardly think it will change police behavior. Do you think that suing people after the fact is going to change how police respond when being fired upon, having Molotov cocktails thrown at them--by their own countrymen, not by someone in a war zone? How will the money given to these people, if it is given at all, do anything to make a merchant more likely to continue to operate a grocery store in a neighborhood where the citizens break the windows and steal his merchandise? How safe is it for children to have all this glass shattered around them, to have perps shoving clerks and stealing from them, to be assaulted or shot by a mob--that Amnesty INternational comment about children being subjected to the potential of being tear gassed--what parent in their right mind puts their child in that place where that is happening?
If people sued and got big settlements from someone--who--the city of Ferguson? Who has this money to pay them--but if they did get settlements, then how does that translate into changing the cultural scene that we are seeing played out over the past few days? Because I really do want to know why anyone is happy to see the latest police arrest of a journalist--why is this escalation in anarchy a cause for glee?
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"Back when I was a young boy all my aunts and uncles would poke me in the ribs at weddings saying your next! Your next! They stopped doing all that crap when I started doing it to them... at funerals!"
Probably not, a cop who threw a projectile at an Occupy protestor in CA and left them permanently brain damaged got 3 years paid leave and then rehired EVEN THOUGH the brain damaged person sued and got 4.5 million dollars from the city (3 years paid vacation - tell me to what other employee in the world that would happen to? And after costing their employer 4.5 million dollars to boot).If a photographer from Getty or a reporter from CNN or for that matter, the family of Michael Brown sue, what good does that do? I hardly think it will change police behavior.
http://www.contracostatimes.com/news...-is-reinstated
Which may be by infiltrators for all we know. I don't say it is (don't have proof of that and some do advocate violence - they aren't necessarily from the community people are so eager to blame though) and don't say it isn't (because such things are known to happen). If it is such documents may be released soon or may be in 30 years. If they are most will have very little interest in them because it won't be reported on CNN.Do you think that suing people after the fact is going to change how police respond when being fired upon, having Molotov cocktails thrown at them--by their own countrymen, not by someone in a war zone?
in the riots at night probably none, in the protests if they are raising activists. Now look I don't say one should raise activists (though if one thinks it's activism to change things or the system will target your kids when they grow up anyway then ...) as politics in general is kind of heavy stuff for a kid (they aren't usually at a developmental level to understand) but ...How safe is it for children to have all this glass shattered around them, to have perps shoving clerks and stealing from them, to be assaulted or shot by a mob--that Amnesty INternational comment about children being subjected to the potential of being tear gassed--what parent in their right mind puts their child in that place where that is happening?
Trees don't grow on money
This article
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/m...8f2e50051.html
talks about a store owners who now nightly is, with his family, setting up with guns to protect his own store, the police can't protect him.
Yesterday I heard a radio interview with the attorney hired by the market where Gentle Giant Mike Brown performed his robbery. The lawyer was acting as spokesperson and wanted to get the message out to the world that this store owner has done business in Ferguson for 5 years and they are part of the community. The did not call the cops on Mike Brown, a customer called. Nor did they voluntarily turn over store video footage to police. I'm reading between the lines this message and think it means "don't kill us! don't harm us! we didn't turn him in, we aren't snitches!"
What happens in places like this is that business owner move on, places like Ferguson go downhill and residents in the community are left without commercial services. And then there is moaning and complaints about food desserts and etc.
Well, that's not really important. What really matters is being popular with Rob's friends on social media. You probably get better connections when the cellular infrastructure isn't burdened by people trying to make a living.
I have a lunch banquet today I am working downtown and I am leaving for it in a few minutes, so I won't be able to respond to you'all right away. Just want to stop by here and say that this is sort of like that thread on the carts that grocery stores in my neighborhood used to let people cart their food back to their residences with - I'm just amazed at the responses. Beyond anything I may have posted, I am amazed that we have posters here who have seen the excessive police force - arrests of journalists, teargas before the end of curfew, armored vehicles and guns trained on protestors, riot gear that is above what soldiers in Iraq were given when they were in combat, the police handing out information when they damn well felt like it - how anyone can be OK with this police behavior is completely beyond me. The facts that there are people who are makes me grateful to be lower income and struggling and see things the way I do. My net take away is that there is yet more reason to fear America and I can not wait for the lawsuits to start pouring in. It's like my mother told me when I was seven - the only way you can change anything in America is by terror of financial ruin. I don't believe this is true 100% of the time but my experience is it is true more often that it is not. This is why I look forward to the lawsuits. And I'd better get going to my banquet. Here's hoping that between now and the time I get back here there is relative peace out there in Missouri. Rob
PS Real quick - one more thing - Michael Brown's body was left out in the hot sun unmoved for close to five hours I'm reading online. When you stand up for the police, can you not see that you are saying this is acceptable behavior on the part of the police - to leave a dead body to sit there in the August heat for close to five hours? Disagree with me all you want, I've got tough skin and can take it, but.....my take here? It's the more humane one and I'm very grateful I have not given that away. Rob
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