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    I wouldn't worry about Officer Wilson. He's enjoying a paid vacation, his fans are busy building him a nice nest egg, and police are almost never convicted for using excessive force in this country.

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    I just saw a cell phone video taken by an eyewitness to the "other" police shooting of a "knife wielding" individual in St Louis, since the Ferguson incident. It impressed me to the point that I'd say the activists really should regroup and rally around this latest one. It(the video) gives you a clearer picture of just what happened, and a definite clue WHY the citizens are protesting, back in Ferguson. It appears that the real issue has been ongoing----it seems like the Police are behaving more like soldiers in a war zone, than public employees that are supposed to "protect and serve".

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    No rioting over this one from a few days ago:

    http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-cou...-woman-who-was

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    Quote Originally Posted by Packy View Post
    I just saw a cell phone video taken by an eyewitness to the "other" police shooting of a "knife wielding" individual in St Louis, since the Ferguson incident. It impressed me to the point that I'd say the activists really should regroup and rally around this latest one. It(the video) gives you a clearer picture of just what happened, and a definite clue WHY the citizens are protesting, back in Ferguson. It appears that the real issue has been ongoing----it seems like the Police are behaving more like soldiers in a war zone, than public employees that are supposed to "protect and serve".
    Yea I think there's been information for awhile that it's ongoing. The homeless guy in Albequerque etc.

    And in addition to that additional incident in St Louis while the Furgeuson protests were going on there was also this:
    http://ktla.com/2014/08/17/activists...an-ezell-ford/
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    Well, the obvious solution for the Ca. department, after they settle the huge lawsuit filed by the womans' family, is to give all department personnel a vision exam, using picture charts of cordless drills and various handguns, to make certain they can distinguish between the two--from as far away as 15 feet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    I wouldn't worry about Officer Wilson. He's enjoying a paid vacation, his fans are busy building him a nice nest egg, and police are almost never convicted for using excessive force in this country.
    Your last point is another reason I don't trust the police and I seriously question whether or not this citizenship is viable for the long term. I do believe that due to Ferguson and what is perhaps (?) going to be unearthed now - such I as read online late last night that the police report filled out about the shooting was illegal in the sense that it was hardly filled out according to the ACLU - perhaps more people will wake up to this. One can hope, anyway. Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife View Post
    Your last point is another reason I don't trust the police and I seriously question whether or not this citizenship is viable for the long term. I do believe that due to Ferguson and what is perhaps (?) going to be unearthed now - such I as read online late last night that the police report filled out about the shooting was illegal in the sense that it was hardly filled out according to the ACLU - perhaps more people will wake up to this. One can hope, anyway. Rob
    "Citizenship viable for the long term" -- whatever does that mean?

    Keep in mind that Ferguson isn't conducting the homicide investigation. I'm not sure what the Ferguson Police dept would normally document when they've turned over the investigation, including the crime scene, to another organization. They have little to report. Something happened on Canfied Dr on August 9th, that's the extent of their report.

    St. Louis County police took over the crime scene. Remember the scene that was secured while investigation took place? The scene that you complained bout? That was measured, photographed, completely examined for bullet casing and many other factors, and it was all documented. The documented facts exists in the St. Louis County prosecutor's office.

    But the ACLU knows this, they are just blowing smoke to get people like you riled up.

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    There is supposed to be a police report filed. In this case, it was late and scanty (the cynic might say they were trying to come up with a good story). According to Time: http://time.com/3159680/ferguson-mic...police-report/

    "The incident report, filed by the St. Louis County police department, contains no new information on the encounter between Brown and Wilson. There are no written details about the event. As a result, the officer’s account of what transpired when the two men met just after noon on Aug. 9 remains a mystery."

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    There is supposed to be a police report filed. In this case, it was late and scanty (the cynic might say they were trying to come up with a good story). According to Time: [URL="http://time.com/3159680/ferguson-michael-brown-shooting-police-report/"]http://time.com/3159680/ferguson-michael-brown-shooting-police-repor]"The incident report, filed by the St. Louis County police department, contains no new information on the encounter between Brown and Wilson. There are no written details about the event. As a result, the officer’s account of what transpired when the two men met just after noon on Aug. 9 remains a mystery."[/I][/I]
    Late and scanty does not look good. It really doesn't. It leaves the door open to all sorts of questions and insinuations and in a court of law, for me anyway, it would create reasonable doubt. I'm not saying Michael Brown was any kind of saint - clearly he was not - but on the other side of the equation, why was this report left so scant? What's up with that, Ferguson Police? Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lily View Post
    "Citizenship viable for the long term" -- whatever does that mean?

    Keep in mind that Ferguson isn't conducting the homicide investigation. I'm not sure what the Ferguson Police dept would normally document when they've turned over the investigation, including the crime scene, to another organization. They have little to report. Something happened on Canfied Dr on August 9th, that's the extent of their report.

    St. Louis County police took over the crime scene. Remember the scene that was secured while investigation took place? The scene that you complained bout? That was measured, photographed, completely examined for bullet casing and many other factors, and it was all documented. The documented facts exists in the St. Louis County prosecutor's office.

    But the ACLU knows this, they are just blowing smoke to get people like you riled up.
    IL, what I meant was, if the police are going to be treating everyday people as automatic enemies - witness the police militarization in Ferguson and around the US - is it worthwhile to stay here in the US given how short life is - would not most people be better off elsewhere? America is coming to the point where this unpleasant question needs to be addressed IMHO.

    Getting back to Ferguson, though - it's not hard to get riled up given the visuals of police militarization and excessive force used in arrests - such as with the two journalists who were the first journalists to be arrested - and with the teargas episodes. Perhaps we don't know all the facts yet - I will grant that - but the visuals of excessive force and militarization will never go away for me as long as I live. That's permanent. And these images that have went viral across the world of the police militarization and excessive force - that international reputation damage is not going away any time soon, either. Rob

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