Iris lilies, how are things in your hood?

[gimmethesimplelife]

Told ya upthread that you were missing opportunities to become upset. Glad you found that one.

OK IL, this just begs the question.....you don't find this upsetting? At all? Living in St Louis County (?) as you do and paying taxes there you don't find this the slightest bit upsetting? These words were of this man's own admission - no grand jury needed here. Rob

[Yossarian]

And I'm wrong for calling this for what it is and wanting out of America?

He's apparently an across the board kook, was not speaking in an official capacity, has not actually been involved in a police shooting, and is going to get fired as soon as they can.

Do I need to post the kitten again?

[gimmethesimplelife]

He's apparently an across the board kook, was not speaking in an official capacity, has not actually been involved in a police shooting, and is going to get fired as soon as they can.

Do I need to post the kitten again?

It's not that simple. You don't just suspend and fire and presto magic it goes away. The problem is - how did this man hide in plain sight in the St. Louis County police for 35 years and what does this say about the police force overall there? To you the question may be a done deal already, to me it is not going away even if this man is fired. Rob

I do agree with you that he is a kook though and I did read that he would have been fired right away if a review were not necessary first.

[Packy]

I, will be boycotting Ferguson. It will not be on my tourist itinerary, next time I decide to raise a little hell. Reason: The Po-lice there are just a bunch of party-poopers.Just trying to be funny.

[ApatheticNoMore]

Why not take your mother with you? Why isn't she endangered here, too?

My Mom is getting older and a her health is slowly starting to decline - I don't know if she's up to starting anew somewhere else at this point. I want to make sure whatever time she is here she is safe and comfortable. That's the real reason I am stlll here

most people's reasons for living here (the u.s.) are probably of the same type (elderly parents, kids - especially in cases of divorce when they can't just be packed up, needs of spouses, career, other family they are close to, any other strong ties, etc.). So all the messed up americans who are crazy enough to stay here, probably have reasons much like your own.

[bae]

So all the messed up americans who are crazy enough to stay here,

With all due respect....

Piss off.

[Gregg]

Take a deep breath guys.

[JaneV2.0]

It's not that easy to emigrate. There are all kinds of hoops to jump through--age, health, language, education, occupation, arrest record...Any one of those can be a deal breaker unless you have enough money to buy your way in.

[creaker]

It's not that easy to emigrate. There are all kinds of hoops to jump through--age, health, language, education, occupation, arrest record...Any one of those can be a deal breaker unless you have enough money to buy your way in.

My daughter married an Australian national (they are currently in France) a little over a year ago. They are married and just had a child (my first grandson :-). There is a maze they have will navigate for my son-in-law to come here to live - and if they don't do it right he can be refused.

[ApatheticNoMore]

With all due respect....

Piss off.

Wow. Just Wow. "All the messed up Americans who are crazy enough to stay here" was paraphrasing an argument Rob makes (often). And I was just saying that they may have personal reasons for doing so like him. If I expected an argument with anyone it would be WITH ROB, because I WAS AFTERALL gently (I hope) criticizing his repeated argument on everyone not leaving as they should (everyone on this board has heard the argument). And it's often not a philosophical political commitment at all, living somewhere is occupying (no not Occupying , my gawd if people want to read that in too then this board grows dumber by the second, just fricken living one exists and it's usually in some country is what I'm saying) space. Not many people look at their lives and say "where should I live, lets see which country most aligns with my philosophical beliefs now ... I think I'll move to Norway ..." Is some people do, good for them I guess!

I can't believe this thread either. So people talk to police and they conclude not all police are bad. Fair enough. Do they also talk to communities that feel they are being abused by police? I suspect they might see things differently if they did and really took it in. Because the issue is not how police treat rich white or even middle class white people afterall (not to deny that they may have some cases of legitimate police brutality sometimes as well).