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    Quote Originally Posted by dmc View Post
    The first pic already looks like much of North St. Louis now. The thugs have already taken over much of that. You should go there and visit.
    I don't need to. There are patches of Phoenix that resemble this, too. Thankfully they don't tend to erupt when such things happen. Rob

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    I'm sure those chanting "Kill the Police" were just out having a good time and meant nothing by it.
    It's doubtful anyone was shouting this as opposed to FTP*

    * unprintable, but it's not file transfer protocol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore View Post
    It's doubtful anyone was shouting this as opposed to FTP*.

    * unprintable, so let's just say it means file transfer protocol.
    I read it on the internet so it must be true.

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    I can see where this is not good PR for the black community in Ferguson but in my book it's understandable given what the black community - most especially those who complied with the law even though assault rifles were drawn on them for a couple of days by militarized police and compliant protestors were teargassed - endured in Ferguson. As I have said before, since the police have rights over us and have weapons within their reach as part of their job, I hold them to a higher standard. They blew it big time in Ferguson as far as I am concerned. Why shouldn't they face consequences as a result? Innocent protestors in compliance with the law faced consequences, now why should they not be seeking huge paydays and why should the Ferguson police be immune from such? Rob

    PS The good that may come from this? Perhaps people of all races and all persuasions will be quicker to sue the police across America now. And definitely quicker to get police misconduct online and onto social media. Good developments in my book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore View Post
    It's doubtful anyone was shouting this as opposed to FTP*

    * unprintable, but it's not file transfer protocol.
    FTP is a less harsh than KTP, I'll have to grant that. Still, neither being chanted justifies excessive force and poiice militarization. Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife View Post
    ... since the police have rights over us ...
    Actually, they don't, generally. They are held to a higher standard in use-of-force than you are, and are subject to many more legal restrictions to their activities and behaviours.

    Where did you go to law school again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    Actually, they don't, generally. They are held to a higher standard in use-of-force than you are, and are subject to many more legal restrictions to their activities and behaviours.

    Where did you go to law school again?
    As far as I am concerned, anyone who can gun me down and possibly get away with it has far more rights than I do.....Look at Mr. Wilson, the officer involved, on PAID LEAVE whlle this is sorted out. Had I shot him down in self defense, I'd be sitting in a cell right now and not with pay I'm afraid. Legal me all you want to, to me this is not the slightest bit equal. Rob

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    Of course it is paid leave. The incident is under investigation. He has not been found at fault. Why wouldn't he get paid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reyes View Post
    Of course it is paid leave. The incident is under investigation. He has not been found at fault. Why wouldn't he get paid?
    I think this right here is part of the problem. There seems to be a presumption of innocence for the cop that I would not enjoy had I shot the cop in legitimate self defense. I would be sitting in a jail cell without pay while Mr. Wilson is collecting full pay while an investigation is held. Of course, he is in hiding which is probably wise, but he remains free whereas I would not. I have some pretty big issues with this. If the jail cell is good enough for me, it's good enough for the cop while the investigation is held. If there is no indictment, then let him go free. Police truly do have more rights than everyday people - the fact that Mr. Wilson is not currently in a cell while any of us would be only serves to prove that to me. Why should the cop be immune from the jail cell? Rob

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