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    If Wilson gets no-billed by the grand jury or acquitted if a trial happened, it would likely get really ugly, really fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tradd View Post
    If Wilson gets no-billed by the grand jury or acquitted if a trial happened, it would likely get really ugly, really fast.
    Yes. I agree. Scary ugly very fast. And I'm of the opinion it would spread - think Chicago, LA, Atlanta, the list goes on. Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife View Post
    Yes. I agree. Scary ugly very fast. And I'm of the opinion it would spread - think Chicago, LA, Atlanta, the list goes on. Rob
    Having the media whores of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton inflaming situations like this does not help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tradd View Post
    If Wilson gets no-billed by the grand jury or acquitted if a trial happened, it would likely get really ugly, really fast.
    Did you say that a .22 is an easy gun for beginners? Maybe I need to buy one, living a block and a half from public housing projects as I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    Did you say that a .22 is an easy gun for beginners? Maybe I need to buy one, living a black and a half from public housing projects as I do.
    Yes, .22 are easy for beginners. The trick, though, is finding ammo as .22 is rather.scarce these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tradd View Post
    Having the media whores of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton inflaming situations like this does not help.
    Agreed. But this is a two way street and somehow the police are going to have to find the emotional strength to deal with being held accountable for their actions. They will also have to find the inner strength to deal with not being above the law and to deal with the consequences of their misbehavior. It's long overdue and what I'm seeing in my barrio (an affectation on my part to use this word but most of the neighborhood is of Hispanic background) is that there is a lot of fear and hatred and distrust and most of all, resentment of the police. I really believe with the advent of social media and the intense economic inequality in the US these days, this situation is not going to just fade away this time. And people won't be flattened this time as in the past - they will use technology to flatten the power of the authorities and roll ahead with multi million dollar lawsuits and media publicity to strike back. It's long overdue and I applaud this development.

    But back to your post. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are not needed to stir the pot. The Ferguson police department has sealed their fate by stirring the pot for years - amazing that it's taken the pot this long to boil over. Rob

    PS To those of you who find my posts about this whole issue a bit out there, let me assure you that I live in a neighborhood ( or barrio, to respect my neighbors) of over 10,000 - the people I know here from community activism all feel the same way and have told me that their friends and neighbors are on board this with these sentiments too. My point is I'm not alone out there and here in Phoenix we have Hispanics siding against the Ferguson police. Rob

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    There was something on the local news about how Seattle police are up in arms (pun noted) about new rules designed to curb excessive force. I guess the job just wouldn't be the same without dangerous police chases, beating handcuffed women, shooting Native American artists holding four-inch knives, roughing up suspects while shouting racial slurs, etc. etc. Police brutality is endemic, due either to psychopathic recruits flying under the radar of psychological testing, or being given a pass by their superiors. We had a police chief (!) up here in Tacoma that was promoted despite repeated warnings about his instability. In the end, he brutalized his wife--who had to take out a restraining order--until he finally gunned her down and killed himself in front of their children. He would have been a menace to society regardless, but there was no excuse for putting him in a position of power over the general citizenry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    There was something on the local news about how Seattle police are up in arms (pun noted) about new rules designed to curb excessive force. I guess the job just wouldn't be the same without dangerous police chases, beating handcuffed women, shooting Native American artists holding four-inch knives, roughing up suspects while shouting racial slurs, etc. etc. Police brutality is endemic, due either to psychopathic recruits flying under the radar of psychological testing, or being given a pass by their superiors. We had a police chief (!) up here in Tacoma that was promoted despite repeated warnings about his instability. In the end, he brutalized his wife--who had to take out a restraining order--until he finally gunned her down and killed himself in front of their children. He would have been a menace to society regardless, but there was no excuse for putting him in a position of power over the general citizenry.
    Jane, the good news here, though? And I believe as negative as I am about American society in general, there is good news here - people are starting to become more and more aware of what you have posted here and are staring to strike back - I applaud the legal strike backs and find the illegal ones unfortunate and no help to the cause whatsoever. But people are becoming aware and are standing up to this. So I do see some positive in all of this. Rob

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    Jane, I just did some research regarding the Seattle police department. It turns out that they hammered out an agreement with Eric Holder and the US Dept of Justice about the use of excessive force in the past and now 120 officers of the Seattle police department are suing to have this overturned in Federal Court and are seeking financial compensation. The irony here is so thick I could almost cut it with a knife. I'm reading online of Seattle residents fearful to go out at night - not due to random crime or thugs but due to their own police department. I feel the same exact way here in Phoenix - I have more to fear from the police than from random thugs, even living in a lower income 'hood. Back to the Seattle PD though - apparently they have been on the Justice Department's radar screen for some time as there have been numerous incidents of brutality and use of excessive force and people up in Puget Sound started legally striking back - good for them! We as a nation really do need to organize and claim back our rights from these government thugs that get a pension.

    That said, not every last cop is a thug. I will state that CLEARLY here and now. The problem is that there are too many thugs and it seems that there is something about being a cop that bring out the dark and bullying side of human nature in too many of them. Other than pension loss, the only remedies I see are social media and huge lawsuits. And the Justice Department apparently is open to hassling local police departments if there are enough incidents so maybe this is one route to go - file a complaint with the Justice Department, too. And also have a smartphone with video and audio capabilities if you can afford it on you at all times to protect yourself from that percentage of the police that are thugs as you just don't know at any time if you will be hassled or not. Rob

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    Rob, Sharpton and Jackson have a history of making bad situations worse. They also only focus on things that fit their agenda of white on black.

    There was a 9 year old girl killed in Chicago recently. Did they bring their entourages and the media that follow them to bear attention on that? Nope. Why? It's black on black. Huge problem for the black community, but it doesn't fit their (Sharpton and Jackson's) agenda, so they do little, or nothing, about the issue.

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