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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife View Post
    SPOLIER ALERT***** I'm about to go radical and take an anti-Obama stance.....

    Seriously, I don't understand the refusal to temporarily end flight service from West Africa - at least from Guinea, Sierra Leone, and Liberia - into the United States. I just don't get it to the point where I wish on this one (just this one) issue we had Romney in office instead - yes, I said it (!!!!!) as I do believe under Romney these flights would have been by now suspended until further notice - better control/eradication of the virus. I've lost some faith in Obama for not ending these flights, I really have.

    I also believe that we don't fully know all the means by which this virus is transmitted and that the government is not admitting this, which I find very off putting to say the least. I also believe that this will (probably) die off and not become this horrible thing that many seem to fear but that before this happens there will be a lot of political theater and drama. Nothing new on this last. Rob
    I always find the POV amusing that there is government cover-up when I believe it is Goobment flub-up. Rob thinks that the Goob knows but isn't saying, I think that the Goob doesn't know (and probably even doesn't know that they don't know.) Both of these represent typical Rob 'n Iris world views.

    But Rob, I will say this: Buddy, don't put that on Mitt Romney. Don't ascribe civil liberty limiting actions to that guy. You are REALLY projecting your own paranoia into that thought.

    Look, it may come that limiting movement among populations takes place but I have to wonder who you think will carry that out? Carried to the logical extreme THE POLICE who you loathe and despise will be locking you up, will be monitoring your quarantine, will be manning control points of population movement, demanding your health papers.

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    Bae, How about a little english with that? On second thought, if it's a put-down like Iris Lily was so kind to give me, just go your merry way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CathyA View Post
    Bae, How about a little english with that?
    I thought it was pretty clear. Your opening post was erecting a straw man (with several seasonings of other sophistries mixed in). Feel free to burn it down yourself if that's what you need to do to be happy.


    On second thought, if it's a put-down like Iris Lily was so kind to give me, just go your merry way.
    It was a kindness, not a put-down.

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    My original question was a sincere, not-meant-to-be-hostile question. I wasn't trying to put anyone down........just trying to understand. Funny how it was received.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CathyA View Post
    Bae, How about a little english with that? On second thought, if it's a put-down like Iris Lily was so kind to give me, just go your merry way.
    Let's see, you ascribe to me a point of view that I don't have (believing that Gooberment/CDC words are all tally-ho), berate me for not having the same POV that you have (I am not logical) hint that my POV is selfish (the "me-me-me" idea) and then bemoan that I answered you as clearly as I know how (the "put-down.")

    And thank YOU for the put-down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CathyA View Post
    My original question was a sincere, not-meant-to-be-hostile question. I wasn't trying to put anyone down........just trying to understand. Funny how it was received.
    There you go again. Assuming and misrepresenting the thoughts of others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    I always find the POV amusing that there is government cover-up when I believe it is Goobment flub-up. Rob thinks that the Goob knows but isn't saying, I think that the Goob doesn't know (and probably even doesn't know that they don't know.) Both of these represent typical Rob 'n Iris world views.

    But Rob, I will say this: Buddy, don't put that on Mitt Romney. Don't ascribe civil liberty limiting actions to that guy. You are REALLY projecting your own paranoia into that thought.

    Look, it may come that limiting movement among populations takes place but I have to wonder who you think will carry that out? Carried to the logical extreme THE POLICE who you loathe and despise will be locking you up, will be monitoring your quarantine, will be manning control points of population movement, demanding your health papers.
    Whoah IL....Whoah. Hold your horses as they said years ago. Somehow there is some miscommunication going on here - my implication was intended to get across that I don't think the government knows all the facts about Ebola transmission. I don't believe there is any cover up other than trying to do damage control to some degree as they seem to be flying by the seat of their pants.

    Here's a radical notion - you say that you believe the government doesn't know.....I am saying the exact same thing. Hence, we actually agree here IL. Yes.....we actually agree. No sarcasm intended, it's just that it's not often that that happens, you know? About Mitt Romney - what I said was intended as nice words for the man and I genuinely do believe he would have handled this differently from how Obama has were he in office. Something that seems to be misunderstood here - just because I am a liberal and tend to be very pro Obama does not mean I carry this stance 100% of the time and this does not mean I can't see bad in the Dems and good in the Reps. Seriously. Did you not see my words of praise for Republican governor of Arizona Jan Brewer when she signed on the dotted line for Medicaid expansion? Democrat does not automatically equal good nor does Republican automatically equal bad to me - I do this more and more on a case by case basis. Rob

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    Iris Lily.......you're taking this much too personally. And I wasn't saying that that "YOU" are the "me-me-me" person. I'm saying the entire country is the me-person.
    Sheesh. What hostility. I was foolish to think we could have a reasonable discussion of how these 2 different views of the government could make sense.

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    Hi CathyA - i thought this editorial in the NYT: "How to Defeat Ebola" was very good at separating the actual ebola risks (such as it spreading to India, ebola used as a biological weapon) from the scare-mongering that is apparently going on in the news.

    One thing I saw that I thought was funny: Keeping ebola in perspective - More American have been married to Kim Kardashian than have contracted ebola.

    BTW CathyA, I enjoy your posts and appreciate your presence here. Don't let this little flurry of weirdness get you down!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardenarian View Post
    Hi CathyA - i thought this editorial in the NYT: "How to Defeat Ebola" was very good at separating the actual ebola risks (such as it spreading to India, ebola used as a biological weapon) from the scare-mongering that is apparently going on in the news.

    One thing I saw that I thought was funny: Keeping ebola in perspective - More American have been married to Kim Kardashian than have contracted ebola.

    BTW CathyA, I enjoy your posts and appreciate your presence here. Don't let this little flurry of weirdness get you down!
    Thanks, Gardenian.....Rob

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