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    It's not just waterboarding.
    "The study reveals several gruesome instances of torture by mid-level CIA officers who participated in the program, including threats of sexual violence using a broomstick and the use of "rectal hydration" in instances of harsh interrogations that lasted for days or weeks on end. And, contrary to the agency's prior insistence that only three detainees were subject to waterboarding, the Senate report suggests it was likely used on more detainees."

    More from HuffPo here.

    And what they are debating is whether these "techniques" were effective (they were not.) Disgusting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardenarian View Post
    the use of "rectal hydration"
    Sounds like the celebrity juice cleanse.

    And what they are debating is whether these "techniques" were effective (they were not.)
    All joking aside, the conclusions in the majority report are highly political. That's not to say that the contrary conclusions in the other official reports and the opinions of the CIA directors aren't, but take it all with a grain of salt. I'm sure the timing is no coincidence either.

    See http://www.wsj.com/articles/cia-inte...ves-1418142644

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardenarian View Post
    It's not just waterboarding..


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    I read somewhere they even deprive them of sensory stimulation by unplugging the TV's so they can't watch cartoons on Saturday Morning! By gum, I sure wish I could get three hots and a cot in The Caribbean, all year around. It would sure beat being in a Middle East War Zone, or shoveling snow in the upper Midwest. Well, wouldn't it? Besides that, what do you think those camel jockeys would do to you, to make you talk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yossarian View Post
    Sounds like the celebrity juice cleanse.



    All joking aside, the conclusions in the majority report are highly political. That's not to say that the contrary conclusions in the other official reports and the opinions of the CIA directors aren't, but take it all with a grain of salt. I'm sure the timing is no coincidence either.

    See http://www.wsj.com/articles/cia-inte...ves-1418142644
    Yes--the second I saw Feinstein in the photo with the news story, I figured it was B.S. She lends it zero credibility, 100% bleeding-heart Partisanship.

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    I've heard over and over again from people who should know that you get the best (maybe the only) intelligence when you establish rapport with your detainee. I'm with John McCain and Jesse Ventura--Ventura famously said "Give me Dick Cheney, an hour, and a waterboard, and I'll have him confessing to the Sharon Tate Murders."

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    Great Idea. I am 100% in favor--totally unopposed--to letting Jesse Ventura Waterboard Dick Cheney. Only, make it two hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Packy View Post
    Great Idea. I am 100% in favor--totally unopposed--to letting Jesse Ventura Waterboard Dick Cheney. Only, make it two hours.
    It's an appealing idea all right. I'm completely opposed to torture of any kind, but in that instance...

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    What did poor Jesse Ventura ever do to deserve that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    What did poor Jesse Ventura ever do to deserve that?
    He volunteered. You know what they say about that...

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    I tend to agree with the Wall Street Journal’s characterization of the report as “a collection of partisan second guessing”, prepared by democratic Senate staffers. ( http://www.wsj.com/articles/spooks-o...ate-1418170941 ).

    Couldn’t they at least have interviewed some of the actual participants before drawing their conclusions?

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