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    Well, here's some more trivia: Baltimore had a fire in 1904, that caused approx. $150, 000,000 in destruction in 1904 Dollars. Also, by 1970, the Baltimore population was nearly 46% Black. The last riots of any significance were on April 4, 1968, and were attributed to indignation over the murder of Martin Luther King. So, maybe it would be fair to assume that them folks the other day was jes' carryin' on the proud traditions of their fine city.

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    So a protest about every fifty years--I'd say Baltimore has shown great restraint.

    The people responsible for Mr. Gray's death are in custody. I guess they forgot to plant a weapon on him. Sloppy police work. Now for the trial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife View Post
    I have some good news. The eix officers involved in the Baltimore issue are now facing murder charges.
    No the six officers are not facing murder charges. One officer is facing murder charges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weston View Post
    No the six officers are not facing murder charges. One officer is facing murder charges.
    You are right...I just reread the article online. Six officers in total face charges but the charges vary per officer. At least if these charges stick there will be no more pension accumulation. And if the charges stick it will serve as incentive for similar situations when the police cross the line.....very sad that rioting and burning and looting seem to be required (though this was not the case in SC, I'll grant that) to force police officers to be accountable to the law they are sworn to uphold. But it takes what it takes and I saw through America years ago. It takes what it takes. Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife View Post
    I have some good news. The eix officers involved in the Baltimore issue are now facing murder charges. It remains to be seen what will materialize as a result of these charges, but at least they have been charged. I'm just so so so glad that social media, the media in general, and these protests are gaining traction in the sense that some officers are finding out they are not above the law. It's very sad to me that situations like Baltimore have to happen to make police officers accountable to the law - how does one forgive America for this? I really don't know - but at least these protests are working.
    That's what scares me about social media. In the Ferguson incident, I was truly afraid the officer would be tried in order to quell the mis-directed social media outrage. I wonder, with less evidence, if these 6 officers aren't being sacrificed to accomplish a social goal rather than justice?
    "Things should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." ~ Albert Einstein

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    That's what scares me about social media. In the Ferguson incident, I was truly afraid the officer would be tried in order to quell the mis-directed social media outrage. I wonder, with less evidence, if these 6 officers aren't being sacrificed to accomplish a social goal rather than justice?
    Mr Gray died in yet non disclosed circumstances while under the custody of the Baltimore Police. Mr Gray was a human being - his life does and did matter. If social media can bring police officers who act against the law back down to earth to be accountable to the law and to be punished by the law for their illegal behavior(s), exactly how is social media a bad thing? I'd agree that America is pathetic in the sense that police officers to date have often enjoyed non accountability and I'd agree on a stance of lifetime non-forgiveness towards America for this - that said, should social media not be a thing of joy for leveling the playing field a bit and giving hope for justice to the disenfranchised?

    I'm afraid my take on this one is a 180 from yours, Alan. Which is fine, everyone gets to believe as they wish in my book - but after what I have seen and experienced, there will be no changing my mind on this one. I'm just grateful that the residents of Baltimore are at least (partly due to the pressure of social media) now worth the human dignity and human decency of seeing these officers tried and potentially facing time locked up with no more pension accumulation. Sad that it took social media and rioting and burning and looting to accomplish this - I place the blame for this at the doorstep of this citizenship - but as I said before, it takes what it takes. Lastly, without the presence of social media, I believe it would have been less likely that these officers were brought before the law to be held accountable. Rob

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    Yah. Human Being. We must have compassion. Adolf Hillltter, who passed away at just 56 years old, 70 years ago, was a human being. So too, was General Tojo, a human being. But, he was hanged. Both men were young boys at one time, probably their mothers' pride and joy. I just read a news story about an incident in Baltimore that occurred several weeks ago. A man, 51 years old & Caucasian, was out walking his dog. He was accosted by 3 or 4 teenagers, negroid; who then shot him as he begged for his life. See? That did not get very much coverage; there were no riots fomented by white activists protesting his death. I kinda think we've all moved beyond that stuff. No lynchings for quite awhile, now. But, anyway---sure hope gimmee here is not on the receiving end of some abuse by black thugs. But, on the other hand--it might be good for him, simply because it might serve as a reality check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    That's what scares me about social media. In the Ferguson incident, I was truly afraid the officer would be tried in order to quell the mis-directed social media outrage. I wonder, with less evidence, if these 6 officers aren't being sacrificed to accomplish a social goal rather than justice?
    Probably so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife View Post
    Mr Gray died in yet non disclosed circumstances while under the custody of the Baltimore Police. Mr Gray was a human being - his life does and did matter. If social media can bring police officers who act against the law back down to earth to be accountable to the law and to be punished by the law for their illegal behavior(s), exactly how is social media a bad thing? I'd agree that America is pathetic in the sense that police officers to date have often enjoyed non accountability and I'd agree on a stance of lifetime non-forgiveness towards America for this - that said, should social media not be a thing of joy for leveling the playing field a bit and giving hope for justice to the disenfranchised?
    If you and your social media friends had your way earlier this year, at about the same stage in the investigation of Michael Brown's death, the police officer in Ferguson would now be sitting on death row. All the moral outrage without facts to back them up, although promoted by media, both social and mainstream, are a danger to society.
    "Things should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." ~ Albert Einstein

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    The facts that are coming out in the Gray case is not going to help the cops. Everyone needs to take responsibility for their actions including the cops. Cops choose their profession & if they just want to kill people try joining the military. Having spent my life in human service work you can not paint all poor people with the same wide brush.

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