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    Quote Originally Posted by UltraliteAngler View Post
    I hope Rubot does not pull off a comeback.

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    I don't know which I fear more: The Donald setting the conservative cause back a generation, or four years of your taunts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    While I appreciate your purple prose, I will decline your offer to panic at this time.

    There are many votes yet to be cast and delegates to be allocated. As the GOP herd thins, it will be harder for Trump to hide in a fog of frothy rhetoric without being forced to say what he actually stands for. From his utterances to date, he thinks more like a Democrat than a Republican on a number of issues, and that will emerge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UltraliteAngler View Post
    I hope you are wrong; I fear you are right.
    Tonight's debate should be a pretty good indication. If the non-lunatic fringe goes after Trump instead of one another, I will maintain some hope. Make him explain his fondness for Vladimir Putin or Single Payer Healthcare. Ask how it's possible for a "winner" to lose money running Casinos. Elaborate on some of his more memorable statements. I think the guy's vulnerable.

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    I'd like to see Trumps tax returns. Last I noticed, he said he would make them public when Hillary revealed her emails, which I read as a stall tactic. Could be a good debate topic if he paid as little as one could suspect and he's hinting at new taxes on the rich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    Tonight's debate should be a pretty good indication. If the non-lunatic fringe goes after Trump instead of one another, I will maintain some hope. Make him explain his fondness for Vladimir Putin or Single Payer Healthcare. Ask how it's possible for a "winner" to lose money running Casinos. Elaborate on some of his more memorable statements. I think the guy's vulnerable.
    Every time some pundits report what a terrible debate showing trump has......his numbers go up. The angry white middleclass love Vladimir Putin's in your face politics. They want somebody to stand up to the rest of the world and not bow and kiss their rings. What could be worse than the Obamination care we have now. Single payer doesn't scare an angry white blue collar struggling worker who can't afford any real illness or they will lose their jobs. Casinos are wildly popular among the middleclass and poor. Everybody knows organized crime is involved in the casino industry and I'm not referring to politicians or am I. The angry white middleclass loves all his offensive words......don't wait for anyone to abandon him. You better be figuring out how to overtake him.

    Let me me know when that light of hope dims to where you have to squint to see it......

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    Tonight's debate should be a pretty good indication. If the non-lunatic fringe goes after Trump instead of one another, I will maintain some hope. Make him explain his fondness for Vladimir Putin or Single Payer Healthcare. Ask how it's possible for a "winner" to lose money running Casinos. Elaborate on some of his more memorable statements. I think the guy's vulnerable.
    I plan to be front and center (of the TV) for tonight's debate hoping for that very outcome. Sadly however, I'm guessing Cruz will try to grab a little home field advantage and will try hard to lampoon Trump, but teflon Don won't see much stick. Rubio will try to work in lots of sound bites of Cruz flip-flopping and hope to pick any Trump voters Cruz offends if Donald falters. Trump will not get pressed to reveal any substantial position on any subject, but will instead spend most of the evening interrupting Cruz and Rubio so they won't get to reveal anything substantial, either. Kasich will have time to make notes for his campaign suspension speech. Carson will have time to think about replacing Adam in the Sistine Chapel.
    "Back when I was a young boy all my aunts and uncles would poke me in the ribs at weddings saying your next! Your next! They stopped doing all that crap when I started doing it to them... at funerals!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    I'd like to see Trumps tax returns. Last I noticed, he said he would make them public when Hillary revealed her emails, which I read as a stall tactic. Could be a good debate topic if he paid as little as one could suspect and he's hinting at new taxes on the rich.
    Im sorry Rogar........if Trump got away with tax evasion or legal loopholes....all that does is give him street Cred. The WAMC can spin any so called vulnerability into a strength. No, it's past time to try take take him down. Someone needs to win the hearts of the American people if it's not too late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregg View Post
    I plan to be front and center (of the TV) for tonight's debate hoping for that very outcome. Sadly however, I'm guessing Cruz will try to grab a little home field advantage and will try hard to lampoon Trump, but teflon Don won't see much stick. Rubio will try to work in lots of sound bites of Cruz flip-flopping and hope to pick any Trump voters Cruz offends if Donald falters. Trump will not get pressed to reveal any substantial position on any subject, but will instead spend most of the evening interrupting Cruz and Rubio so they won't get to reveal anything substantial, either. Kasich will have time to make notes for his campaign suspension speech. Carson will have time to think about replacing Adam in the Sistine Chapel.
    Gregg, I don't want to leave you out. CNN is ginning up tonight's debate like it was an Ali - Frazier rematch. I guess that's the business but the truth is.......the debate matters little. By Tuesday, any bump Cruz or Rubio get will have evaporated. They are actually talking about "mayhem" happening. C'mon. I think it is going to be underwhelming.

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    Trump is not for single payer. The level of ignorance of the actual positions Trump has taken is off the charts (I know issues are an epiphenomena to the Trump phenomena, he's not about ideas to be sure. But really pretending Trump is your guy if you want single payer is simply WRONG). Here's the thing: Trump came out for single payer once long ago (so there is a slight amount of historical truth to that), but has since come out against it in the debates (didn't anyone follow any of the debates? I admit I couldn't stomach them all but some ... I know these are weasly unstrustable politicians and narcissists, but what they say is still a better guide to what they will do, than making stuff up out of whole cloth.).

    It was asked as a debate question whether Trump favors single payer like Sanders or something and he does not. And yet people think Trump is the guy who is going to be fighting for single payer (even Sanders has limited ability to implement it without Congress, but he is for it, he has a section on his website on issues called "Medicare for All", so make no mistake he had made it one of his issues). Someone who waffles on their positions like Trump is not going to put up a fight for single payer (they will probably just leave the status quo - that is the ACA in place, whatever they say, that is the path of least resistance for an issues they seem to care so little about anyway as to be constantly waffling on).
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    If Trump was for single payer I'd vote for him, no doubt about it!

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