Trumps: White Angry Middleclass

[Ultralight]

So you are envisioning some indigo-children-led radical change in human consciousness unprecedented in the history of mankind?

Sweeeeet!

I can imagine working diligently and conscientiously for plenty of reasons other than money.

But then again, I am an imaginative person.

[Ultralight]

Also: The same profit motive that everyone stimulates themselves to drives the things that destroy our health -- fast food, driving cars, buying all sorts of cheap plastic chit made in China, strawberries in January, etc.

[ApatheticNoMore]

Of course money drives people to do at least as much harm as good, because how can the impetus of greed and if not that high up the income scale then the impetus of survival and the fear of impoverishment not lead to any corner that can be cut being cut, any corruption that can be engaged in engaged in. All pressure is to $ell one's $oul. So you cover up that the Teflon is poisonous, that the fossil fuels cause climate change, that the drug is more dangerous than it's worth or barely works and the researchers were paid off, you even lie to your stockholders, you take the money tit for tat if your a politician, you struggle with the economic consequences of whistleblowing (on a company I mean) and decide against them etc.. The examples in the news everyday are literally endless.

That may sound overly cynical as in: no body has any principles ever. No ... but I think those who have principles will if all other factors are constant do less well economically, relative to not having principles, because not having principles IS an economic advantage all other things held constant. Now of course all other things are NOT equal and so many things have their effect, but nonetheless the effect of having principles is an economic negative.

[iris lilies]

Anyone know if his steaks are any good?

One of my Trump supporting friends ordered his wine. i drank some, it was ok.

she waxed poetic anout the customer service, it was great! They were out of product and she had to wait or reorder or some such snafu, but it was all great! Making wine great again! It was epic, the wine experience.

[Williamsmith]

If he just beats Hillary in the general election, I'll be happy. After that, he can choke on one of those steaks for all I care and leave the rest of the job to his Vice President who is probably going to be infinitely better than Trump whoever it might be.........but please don't let it be Sarah Palin.....

[bae]

No ... but I think those who have principles will if all other factors are constant do less well economically, relative to not having principles, because not having principles IS an economic advantage all other things held constant. Now of course all other things are NOT equal and so many things have their effect, but nonetheless the effect of having principles is an economic negative.

That's not what modern games theory suggests generally happens, in the long run.

[gimmethesimplelife]

Dude, I am a little worried you all might be in for a rude awakening. I say this as a fellow liberal! Moving to the Philippines ain't like moving to Norway. It is a third-world country where crazy stuff happens daily -- they have sweatshops like it is normal, quack "doctors," homophobia is rampant, etc.

Many Australians move to the Phillipines to get out of the struggle - and Australia has much more safety net than the US does, though there have been recent cuts to their dole. If it's good enough for Australians, it's for sure on my radar. Though one thing - I'm finding you want to get out of Manilla Pronto and to avoid Mindinao complety. And I will agree their Presidential frontrunner - Rodrigo Duterte - the Phillipines answer to Donald Trump - is a cause for concern. Rob

[gimmethesimplelife]

"Looking into other countries" as in a plan to to leave within 12 months?

Edited to be nice

Depending on when my Mom's no longer around. Rob

[gimmethesimplelife]

Last train to Snarksville...

Lol. Iris means well. Rob

[gimmethesimplelife]

Removing profit from the equation takes a re-imagining of one's purpose on the planet.

Wow. Very deep and very true. I don't know how many Americans and to be fair, how many citizens of Western nations are up to this task...

Rob