Times have changed...

[ApatheticNoMore]

I don't know personally really, I just hear rumors (via word of mouth) that people are getting disability right and left sometimes, which is as annoying as hearing people openly admit they work under the table.

[frugal-one]

what I get from this is: you couldn't find any jobs for 40 hours a week? Maybe lived forever in a depressed area or something, I don't know. Because even though overtime law is really not being enforced now, 40 hour a week jobs exist. You don't have to be stuck in 50-60 hour jobs a week unless you really truly can not find another job (of course with those long hours one might become too tired to even look for another job).

You forget about salaried individuals.... rarely work 40 hours per week.

[ApatheticNoMore]

You forget about salaried individuals.... rarely work 40 hours per week.

Well the salaried classification didn't used to be so broad at one point. I think it was initially only management. Among salaried things there is a lot of variation, so I don't think accepting long hours forever is really inevitable just because it's a salaried position, but varies depending on the company. Some companies are just not very good to work for of course.

[Alan]

Well the salaried classification didn't used to be so broad at one point,

I'm not aware of an official classification of 'salaried', I think you're substituting it for 'exempt'. Anyone can be salaried, but in order to be classified as exempt, you simply need to have discretion and independent judgment in matters pertaining to your responsibilities. Non-exempt employees can be either salaried or hourly.

[frugal-one]

I'm not aware of an official classification of 'salaried', I think you're substituting it for 'exempt'. Anyone can be salaried, but in order to be classified as exempt, you simply need to have discretion and independent judgment in matters pertaining to your responsibilities. Non-exempt employees can be either salaried or hourly.

Yes, anyone can be salaried. The difference is job duties for classification. If you do not meet the requirement of exempt then you must be paid overtime for hours over 40 (albeit less than if an hourly employee). Ask me, I used to enforce that law (section 541 of federal law). Employers can require you to work any number of hours (except for hazardous positions) and just have to pay you properly.

[Alan]

Yes, anyone can be salaried. The difference is job duties for classification. If you do not meet the requirement of exempt then you must be paid overtime for hours over 40 (albeit less than if an hourly employer). Ask me, I used to enforce that law (section 541 of federal law).

Yes, I think some believe all salaried employees are exempt from FLSA requirements.

[LDAHL]

I don't know personally really, I just hear rumors (via word of mouth) that people are getting disability right and left sometimes, which is as annoying as hearing people openly admit they work under the table.

According to this article SSDI has about doubled over the past twenty years.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-has-exploded/

[Teacher Terry]

Frugal: what you are hearing is wrong. I have friends that work by phone as voc experts all over the country on the SSDI cases and like I said before it is extremely hard to get. If you get it you are bad off.

[Ultralight]

Frugal: what you are hearing is wrong. I have friends that work by phone as voc experts all over the country on the SSDI cases and like I said before it is extremely hard to get. If you get it you are bad off.

Come on, they hand it out like Pez! It has basically removed any incentive for anyone to work or innovate. CEOs are resigning daily to just get on disability payments for their profound spiritual ennui.

[iris lilies]

Come on, they hand it out like Pez! It has basically removed any incentive for anyone to work or innovate. CEOs are resigning daily to just get on disability payments for their profound spiritual ennui.

You forgot to add [/saracsm]