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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    Yeah. And then bill us for filet mignon.
    Hyperbolic, but I get your point.

    I think you'll be pleasantly surprised by her policies and so forth. She is not so different from a Republican, really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UltraliteAngler View Post
    Hyperbolic, but I get your point.

    I think you'll be pleasantly surprised by her policies and so forth. She is not so different from a Republican, really.
    Well, she does seem to be to the right of Trump on a number of issues. To the extent that either she or he will actually do what they claim.

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    I was reading the 1956 platform for the Republican party, it is available here http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=25838 It talks about unions and living wages and keeping a strong social security. It also talks about balanced budgets and supporting workers such as immigrants, elderly etc. to assure everyone of their fair rights of employment. I don;t hear that now, Yeah it has been a few years but maybe we need to look at this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoe Girl View Post
    I was reading the 1956 platform for the Republican party, it is available here http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=25838 It talks about unions and living wages and keeping a strong social security. It also talks about balanced budgets and supporting workers such as immigrants, elderly etc. to assure everyone of their fair rights of employment. I don;t hear that now, Yeah it has been a few years but maybe we need to look at this.
    That was back with the "reds" infiltrated the GOP. It is null and void!

    Unions=Commies
    Living wages=Commies

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    I find myself completely disillusioned with American politics this Election Year. The irony that I'm grudgingly voting for Hillary as I believe she won't antagonize Mexico as Trump will - thereby not putting at risk hopping across the border for affordable medical and dental - is not lost on me. If this is my only motivation for voting it's a fail as an Election Cycle in my book.

    I don't feel any of the hope of change and hope that Obama inspired in me....with Hillary I'm voting for continued access to Mexican health care. I have no hopes for anything else with either Hillary or Trump. I will say though that this outlook differs from some of the 85006......there are some Hispanic women really into backing Hillary and I say that's great....I just can't muster up any excitement about a HRC Presidency - other than gratitude for the lack of fear that a Trump Presidency would instill in me. I wish I could go hide somewhere until it's over and the fat pollster sings.....Rob
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoe Girl View Post
    I was reading the 1956 platform for the Republican party, it is available here http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=25838 It talks about unions and living wages and keeping a strong social security. It also talks about balanced budgets and supporting workers such as immigrants, elderly etc. to assure everyone of their fair rights of employment. I don;t hear that now, Yeah it has been a few years but maybe we need to look at this.
    This meme was launched by Occupy Democrats a while ago, and has been making the rounds of the usual suspects. I don't suppose we should be surprised that the political rhetoric of the time was a bit more collectivist, coming as it did in the wake of depression and war. The Democrats' platform at the time was remarkably similar, although they add some soft-on-communism accusations and make no mention of some of the less savory activities of southern Democrats of that era beyond saying the government should reject "the use of force" to implement recent court decisions and legislation related to civil rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife View Post
    I find myself completely disillusioned with American politics this Election Year. The irony that I'm grudgingly voting for Hillary as I believe she won't antagonize Mexico as Trump will - thereby not putting at risk hopping across the border for affordable medical and dental - is not lost on me. If this is my only motivation for voting it's a fail as an Election Cycle in my book.

    I don't feel any of the hope of change and hope that Obama inspired in me....with Hillary I'm voting for continued access to Mexican health care. I have no hopes for anything else with either Hillary or Trump. I will say though that this outlook differs from some of the 85006......there are some Hispanic women really into backing Hillary and I say that's great....I just can't muster up any excitement about a HRC Presidency - other than gratitude for the lack of fear a Trump Presidency would instill in me. I wish I could go hide somewhere until it's over and the fat pollster sings.....Rob
    Rob, you have Libertarian candidates that believe in open borders......and have not profited from their public service to the tune of at least 21 million in speeches to Wall Street cronies. Do you think they are paying her for her opinions?

    Truthfully I don't think you have anything to worry about. Democrats need the voters and Republicans need the cheap labor. There will be no wall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    This meme was launched by Occupy Democrats a while ago, and has been making the rounds of the usual suspects. I don't suppose we should be surprised that the political rhetoric of the time was a bit more collectivist, coming as it did in the wake of depression and war. The Democrats' platform at the time was remarkably similar, although they add some soft-on-communism accusations and make no mention of some of the less savory activities of southern Democrats of that era beyond saying the government should reject "the use of force" to implement recent court decisions and legislation related to civil rights.
    Well, whatever the meme of the day is......I Like Ike was President and was preparing for another term. Some of his quotes follow that would shock the conscience of any self respecting conservative. Ike could not have fit into the Republican Establishment these days. He was way too "progressive". Or are these quotes from a recent Bernie speech?


    "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities. It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population. It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals. It is some 50 miles of concrete highway. We pay for a single fighter plane with a half million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people. This, I repeat, is the best way of life to be found on the road. the world has been taking. This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron."

    Labor
    I have no use for those — regardless of their political party — who hold some foolish dream of spinning the clock back to days when unorganized labor was a huddled, almost helpless mass.
    Speech to the American Federation of Labor, New York City, 9/17/52
    Today in America unions have a secure place in our industrial life. Only a handful of unreconstructed reactionaries harbor the ugly thought of breaking unions. Only a fool would try to deprive working men and women of the right to join the union of their choice.
    Speech to the American Federation of Labor, New York City, 9/17/52
    Government can do a great deal to aid the settlement of labor disputes without allowing itself to be employed as an ally of either side. Its proper role in industrial strife is to encourage the process of mediation and conciliation.
    State of the Union Message, Washington, DC, 2/2/53

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    So if that platform was a response to the war that our country had just been part of, then what is our response to recession?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoe Girl View Post
    So if that platform was a response to the war that our country had just been part of, then what is our response to recession?
    Those Repubs at the time were just foolish and naive. They did not know the horrible dangers of living wages, social security, and unions.

    Zoe Girl: You are talking about economics that empower working families; that is heresy among conservatives.

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