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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    He's on record as saying she's "likable enough".
    I Thought that was a quote attributed to Bill........question is likeable enough for what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Williamsmith View Post
    I Thought that was a quote attributed to Bill........question is likeable enough for what?
    I believe he said it during a debate in New Hampshire. I remember it raising hackles at the time.

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    "Things should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." ~ Albert Einstein

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    The Prez' comment is the definitin of "disdain." Kinda plays into whats happening today,Hillary under the microscope about her email server. Obama could shut that down if he wanted.

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    Allowing open shops where people can choose to join or not, breaking the public unions like that jerk Walker did, etc is bringing down wages. Also Medicare or Medicaid for everyone is the only answer that makes sense in our very broken health care system. Many now have health insurance that they can't afford to use. Ugh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teacher Terry View Post
    Allowing open shops where people can choose to join or not, breaking the public unions like that jerk Walker did, etc is bringing down wages. Also Medicare or Medicaid for everyone is the only answer that makes sense in our very broken health care system. Many now have health insurance that they can't afford to use. Ugh!
    So, you want to do away with the ACA?

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    Yes I want a single payor system that works for everyone. When the ACA first started I never imagined that the plans would have such high deductibles that people can't afford to use it. Even though we pay a small fortune for our insurance at least I can afford it use it due to the reasonable co-pays, etc. I have had a couple of friends lose everything even though they had insurance to long term illnesses. One had a paid for home that they had to keep taking equity out of it to pay their share of medical bills. eventually they lost the house. Due to both spouses having cancer, etc they lost everything and did nothing wrong. When he died they had 5k left for a lifetime of hard work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teacher Terry View Post
    Yes I want a single payor system that works for everyone. When the ACA first started I never imagined that the plans would have such high deductibles that people can't afford to use it. Even though we pay a small fortune for our insurance at least I can afford it use it due to the reasonable co-pays, etc. I have had a couple of friends lose everything even though they had insurance to long term illnesses. One had a paid for home that they had to keep taking equity out of it to pay their share of medical bills. eventually they lost the house. Due to both spouses having cancer, etc they lost everything and did nothing wrong. When he died they had 5k left for a lifetime of hard work.
    It sounds like you think the taxpayers should have picked up all of their costs so that they could leave (as example) $150,000 in their estate.

    I disagree.

    As far as the ACA ceiling limited deductibles to $6,000 per year, yes, that does not work for everyone.

    But many households CAN afford it and should cut back on spending and save something toward medical costs. Pretending that all medical products and services should be free is part of the mindset that gets these middle class households into teouble. They've got plenty of income to save up $6,000 but a cacouynf political voices (cough cough Bernie) tells them it aint rights, it otta be free.


    But of course its not enough, its never enough, Im not,sure what "enough" even looks like

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    The best explanation I've heard for Bernie staying in the race is that he simply can't stop talking. I've read he was invited to leave a commune in 1971 because his devotion to talking precluded maintaining a work ethic acceptable to hippies. His career since seems to have been based on the primacy of talk over outcome. So as long as there are baristas willing to send him their tip jars to pay for the microphone, he'll keep talking.

    I've heard the Sanders camp complain that Mrs. Clinton has only debated him three of the four times she had previously agreed to. In their innocence, they fail to see that a 25% discount rate on a Clinton promise is actually a pretty good deal. Honor does not come easily to someone who claimed to dodge Bosnian bullets which harsh facts revealed to be flower petals. I would disagree with jp1 that she sold her soul. It would be more accurate to say she has crowd-sourced it. I must admit the accountant in me is impressed by the tax-effective way in which she has monetized her prospective influence.

    As a Republican, I hope Mrs. Clinton rewards Debbie Wasserman Schultz for her fealty. We Republicans have little enough to rejoice in this year, and any bone Hillary could toss us would be appreciated.
    This post was hilarious.

    And Bernie the talking machne, not hard to grok..

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    ... But of course its not enough, its never enough, Im not,sure what "enough" even looks like.
    It looks like ordinary people being able to pay for their health care without financial ruin. It means health care without a thick layer of fat (profit) between doctor and patient. Surely you're old enough to remember what that was like.

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