Trumps: White Angry Middleclass

[Ultralight]

agree 100% it is a shame how many people in my age group 55-65 in TN are doing without any kind of healthcare.

I used to live in Alabama. There was an old saying there.

"If boss-man don't take care of me then the good lord will."

[gimmethesimplelife]

I used to live in Alabama. There was an old saying there.

"If boss-man don't take care of me then the good lord will."

If that's not a valid reason to give up on the United States - this kind of thinking/accepting the deficiencies of US citizenship without question - I don't know what is. I feel very blessed that I've never thought like that. Rob

[iris lilies]

Here is the thing:

1. Repubs DO NOT want the American public to realize how great something like universal healthcare is. Then Americans might want to do other things collectively via the gubmint. Repubs want people to have to pay them and their corporations jacked up amounts for all kinds of stuff.

2. Repubs don't want people to actually start new successful businesses. They prefer to suppress competition. This is what a corporate oligarchy does. It is contrary to the GOP rhetoric but look into the actual policies and they always favor huge, established businesses.

These opinions are kind of silly. But you are entitled to them.

[Ultralight]

These opinions are kind of silly. But you are entitled to them.

You are entitled to think they are opinions.

[Alan]

I used to live in Alabama. There was an old saying there.

"If boss-man don't take care of me then the good lord will."

If that's not a valid reason to give up on the United States - this kind of thinking/accepting the deficiencies of US citizenship without question - I don't know what is. I feel very blessed that I've never thought like that. Rob

Sounds suspiciously like "If Daddy Government doesn't take care of me then Mexico will."

[gimmethesimplelife]

Sounds suspiciously like "If Daddy Government doesn't take care of me then Mexico will."

Health care is much less expensive in Mexico, Alan. Case in point, in 2012 I had an ultrasound done at the Hospital Almader in Mexicali -can highly recommend this hospital BTW - the cost - USD $57.50. Equipment modern and hospital cleaner than US hospitals I' ve been in/seen. Would it not be a human rights violation to the millions of Americans locked in relentless nightmare struggle to not be loyal to Mexico and it's health care? The implication seems to be that I accept the role of victim. No can do. No country is worth that. Gratefully I'm far from the only person out there who sees this issue this way. Rob

[Alan]

Health care is much less expensive in Mexico, Alan. Case in point, in 2012 I had an ultrasound done at the Hospital Almader in Mexicali -can highly recommend this hospital BTW - the cost - USD $57.50. Equipment modern and hospital cleaner than US hospitals I' ve been in/seen. Would it not be a human rights violation to the millions of Americans locked in relentless nightmare struggle to not be loyal to Mexico and it's health care? The implication seems to be that I accept the role of victim. No can do. No country is worth that. Gratefully I'm far from the only person out there who sees this issue this way. Rob

Rob, most of Mexico is a third world country. It's nice that you can live in a first world country and outsource your health care to the much cheaper third world, but give it a break dude. Choose one or the other and be happy.

[gimmethesimplelife]

Rob, most of Mexico is a third world country. It's nice that you can live in a first world country and outsource your health care to the much cheaper third world, but give it a break dude. Choose one or the other and be happy.

Alan, where I'm completely lost with your reply? I have no sense that you grasp the economic necessity of offshoring health care to Mexico. To read your post one could be lead to believe this was a choice.....and not necessity. So I'll make it clear. In the country I hold a passport to this is no choice. That's just how it is now. Of course my loyalties and my rhetoric reflect this reality. Rob

[Alan]

Alan, where I'm completely lost with your reply? I have no sense that you grasp the economic necessity of offshoring health care to Mexico. To read your post one could be lead to believe this was a choice.....and not necessity. So I'll make it clear. In the country I hold a passport to this is no choice. That's just how it is now. Of course my loyalties and my rhetoric reflect this reality. Rob

Rob, I understand your frustration about the high cost of first world medical care, where I have a problem relating is the fact that you've spent the last several years receiving 'free' medical care, provided by the citizens of Arizona and the rest of the United States and now those same people are subsidizing your more conventional insurance to make it affordable for you.

You have nearly 3000 posts on these forums and I would guess at least half of those, although probably more, regard your displeasure with this country and your desire to receive more of what you've already enjoyed these past few years. Something tells me that the only way you'll ever achieve peace is to either accept the fact that your country is taking care of you and be grateful for it, or if that is asking too much, relocating to another country might be your only other option. It would do you good to make a choice.

[Williamsmith]

Apparently, many American businesses appreciate the financial benefits of Mexico. American dollars seem to go a long way. Rob is doing what any good capitalist would.