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    Hillary Clinton is certainly as qualified as 99% of presidential candidates; Benghazi is a manufactured scandal. Maybe the Republicans shouldn't have blocked funding for embassy security. And I don't think she's particularly dishonest--especially as compared to the average politician. My problems with Clinton are her apparent eagerness to go to war at the least provocation, her cozy relationship with corporate CEOs, and the notion of dynasty, which is anathema to me. If we're going that route, why not just go back to the monarchy?

    Women are apparently held to a different standard--the "walks on water" standard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catherine View Post
    If Bernie does well today--if he pulls an upset in CA for instance (they're pretty much neck-and-neck), he can try to pull over the superdelegates she has or challenge them, as Williamsmith said. He'll have more leverage if he continues to win states.

    At least that's how I understand it.
    If they're close to neck and neck, and the remaining delegates are awarded proportionately, wouldn't that require the mother of all upsets to convince the superdelegates to betray Clinton? Not impossible, but certainly improbable?

    Of course, this question is coming from a guy who thought the Trump campaign was a joke or publicity stunt. I suppose anything could happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    If we're going that route, why not just go back to the monarchy?

    Women are apparently held to a different standard--the "walks on water" standard.
    And to that point, the monarchy was kinder to "woman's rights"--at least they couldn't take away the crown from Elizabeth, Mary, Victoria, etc--because of birthright. At cracks me up that we're now seeing the news media playing up this "historic" nomination of a woman for president. It almost makes America seem backward, given the number of female heads of state there are and have been all over the world.
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    I simply cannot make electoral predictions anymore. I made too many incorrect ones about the GOP/Trump. haha

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    the way I see it.........Trump vs Sanders = change vs change......... Trump vs Clinton = change vs the same

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    Quote Originally Posted by catherine View Post
    And to that point, the monarchy was kinder to "woman's rights"--at least they couldn't take away the crown from Elizabeth, Mary, Victoria, etc--because of birthright. At cracks me up that we're now seeing the news media playing up this "historic" nomination of a woman for president. It almost makes America seem backward, given the number of female heads of state there are and have been all over the world.
    Today the Clinton News Network will be all over Grumpy old Bernie for not acknowledging the historic achievement of Hillary Clinton, the primary accomplishment being that as a Democratic nominee for President that she is by chromosonal chance born a woman. Not that she is an excellent communicator, leader, administrator, inspiring human(which of course would all be a lie)..no she is a woman. Of all the qualifications they could laud that have to be worked for, they will choose to highlight her sex. Well, if she is elected President, at least it will be over Bernie's dead body. I got to hand to the old man from Vermont. He isn't accepting artificial glass ceilings either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Williamsmith View Post
    Today the Clinton News Network will be all over Grumpy old Bernie for not acknowledging the historic achievement of Hillary Clinton, the primary accomplishment being that as a Democratic nominee for President that she is by chromosonal chance born a woman. Not that she is an excellent communicator, leader, administrator, inspiring human(which of course would all be a lie)..no she is a woman. Of all the qualifications they could laud that have to be worked for, they will choose to highlight her sex. Well, if she is elected President, at least it will be over Bernie's dead body. I got to hand to the old man from Vermont. He isn't accepting artificial glass ceilings either.
    As he said, "the struggle continues", however irrelevant. I liked how Hillary made a sort of concession speech on his behalf.

    I suppose it now comes down to who the voters consider to be the least insufferable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Williamsmith View Post
    Today the Clinton News Network will be all over Grumpy old Bernie for not acknowledging the historic achievement of Hillary Clinton, the primary accomplishment being that as a Democratic nominee for President that she is by chromosonal chance born a woman. Not that she is an excellent communicator, leader, administrator, inspiring human(which of course would all be a lie)..no she is a woman. Of all the qualifications they could laud that have to be worked for, they will choose to highlight her sex. Well, if she is elected President, at least it will be over Bernie's dead body. I got to hand to the old man from Vermont. He isn't accepting artificial glass ceilings either.
    I predict that if Billary becomes Prez then about three years from now you claim that she set back gender relations in this country by 30 years. haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by UltraliteAngler View Post
    I predict that if Billary becomes Prez then about three years from now you claim that she set back gender relations in this country by 30 years. haha
    No UA, I did that all by myself last night while returning home in the wee hours from a lengthy double header between Pittsburgh and New York.......I somehow failed to hear my wife ask twice for me to pull over and get a blanket out for her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Williamsmith View Post
    No UA, I did that all by myself last night while returning home in the wee hours from a lengthy double header between Pittsburgh and New York.......I somehow failed to hear my wife ask twice for me to pull over and get a blanket out for her.
    When Billary is Prez you'll do jail time for that!

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