Or perhaps it's like "not guilty by reason of insanity" I think it should be very easy to make the arguement that killing another human in cold blood is not a sane thing to do. (Or, as I sometimes asked my kids "what made you think that was ok?")

there are Native American philosophies that view the entire western civilization as a mental illness - based in part on our relationship to material objects.

also, if you believe the studies that show hoarding has a genetic component, I'd argue that even with therapy what you have is a "dry drunk."

but I am really hoping UL will come back with some thoughts on this cheesecake pan.