Bullshit.Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife
I work with cops every day. Good, well-trained, brave, caring cops. We generally save lives and prevent Bad Stuff from happening.
Bullshit.
I work with cops every day. Good, well-trained, brave, caring cops. We generally save lives and prevent Bad Stuff from happening.
[QUOTE=JaneV2.0;246918]And all because some sociopathic or otherwise trigger-happy cops didn't have the heart/brains/judgment to handle their weapons properly.
To Iris Lily's point--we expect our police to be at least a couple of notches smarter/calmer/more self-controlled than the average street criminal. Maybe we're too optimistic.[/QUOTE PLUS 10 million. Rob]
It's a complicated problem. Its a culture clash. Some black people respond in a way that might be accepted in their group, but it's found offensive/aggressive to some whites. I imagine police that work in this all the time get really fed up and frustrated.....but no, it's no reason to use inappropriate force. A certain behavior is expected in a civilized society, and many times you don't find that in certain groups. I do get tired of people crying racism, when they are just expected to act in a reasonable manner.
I sure wish we could know the truth all the time, in situations like the ones in MN and LA. No matter who gets stopped by the police, they just can't start fighting........it ups the potential for a bad outcome immediately.
Nobody can seem to do anything today without someone being up in arms (literally). Too many people don't want to "fit in". Too many people don't want to follow rules..........but at the same time, everybody has rights that can end up in deadlocks.
As you said Bae........civilization was nice while it lasted...
That may be so, Bae, but there is no way
a innocent person can know if their life is at risk simply by asking for directions from a cop. I no longer believe instant pension loss is enough for law breaking sociopathic cops....also a new life in another country never having to work again is necessary, paid for via large settlements sought by not taking it any more members of the general public. And even that's not enough, really. Somehow terror seems to need to be struck into the hearts of psychopaths in uniform. I don't see change happening otherwise. Rob
I wonder....and I know there is no provision in the law for this....but for psychopathic cops who are caught, might exile from the United States not be warranted? The threat of statelessness might just prevent sociopathic behavior from law enforcement. I'd have no problem with exiling such trash.....provided their behavior was both illegal and over the top. Having it on video would probably be necessary, too. Really, this might be a sane, low cost solution that might deter a lot of this behavior on the part of law enforcement. Rob
I have been involved in the past with some of the psychological testing done on potential cops and they are trying hard to weed out people that are psychopaths and or sociopaths but are not always successful. Also cops may start out fine but the nature of the horrible stuff they see everyday starts to take a toll on their psyche. Not a reason to start shooting unarmed people for no reason. Even if they don't start out racist they may end up that way from their day to day interactions with a certain race. Again not an excuse. I also think some cops have gotten trigger happy because many have been killed when doing a routine traffic stop. I would not want anyone I loved to work in that profession. I can remember about 30 years ago when I was working in KS and a a few professional black men said they were very afraid of the police and driving at night because of some of the crap that had happened to people they knew. I think black people are sick of being killed at a whim so then they target white officers for no reason. It all has become a vicious circle.
That's a hateful thing to say, especially in the context of the shootings of the Dallas police officers yesterday. Sickening really.
It'd serve you right if police, fire, ems just withdrew from your neighborhood entirely - you've indicated in previous postings you live in terror of them, wouldn't call them to aid a neighbor, and mostly want to fight crime with cell phones. Maybe you should put some sort of sign on your door telling first responders you don't ever want to interact with them.
Life in a rural area and association with cops due to your profession and being in a poor, black ghetto in a big city are 2 entirely different experiences.
It seems to me this kind of statement evinces the same kind of prejudiced thinking you're so eager to impute to police officers.
Bingo. Very much true. Rob
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