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    Here is a question:

    Will the GOP be worse off if Trump wins or if he loses?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    One of my real problems with Trump was his statement that McCain wasn't a hero because he allowed himself to be captured.
    Yep, all this happened about the same time Trump was wallowing in daddy's money........perfect example of why people do not have respect for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenngal View Post
    ...people do not have respect for him.
    Uh... he is the GOP's nominee. They respect him for the most part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UltraliteAngler View Post
    Here is a question:

    Will the GOP be worse off if Trump wins or if he loses?
    Much worse if he wins.

    Spiritually: The Party of Free People will become more like the Party of Free Stuff, pandering to envy and petty spite.

    Politically: When he fails to keep his grandiose promises (or perhaps if he does), it will tar the party at all levels for years.

    Aesthetically: The party of Lincoln's simple eloquence, Coolidge's laconic wit and Reagan's cheerful humor will forever be associated with Trump's crude vulgarity.

    Existentially: I think there is a moderate possibility that principled conservatives may look for a new home if the GOP becomes little better than the Democrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UltraliteAngler View Post
    Uh... he is the GOP's nominee. They respect him for the most part.
    I think you're confusing respect with resigned acquiescence.

    How many Democrats are supporting Clinton out of enthusiastic conviction rather than more practical reasons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UltraliteAngler View Post
    Uh... he is the GOP's nominee. They respect him for the most part.
    I disagree with this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenngal View Post
    I disagree with this.
    Do tell...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CathyA View Post
    I just wish there were more to choose from. Neither of them makes me happy. We do need change.......but surely there's a better compromise of liberal/conservative. I'm a mix of both, which means there's no one for me.
    Gary Johnson is on the ballot in all 50 states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    Gary Johnson is on the ballot in all 50 states.
    Pretty cool!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    I think you're confusing respect with resigned acquiescence.

    How many Democrats are supporting Clinton out of enthusiastic conviction rather than more practical reasons?
    *raises hand* I am.

    In the fall of 1992, the wife of a presidential candidate came to speak at my college. It was an informal event held outside on the green, and I wandered over because I was between classes. As I watched Hillary Rodham Clinton speak, I grew more and more impressed. Here was an intelligent, warm, funny woman who could speak with wit and enthusiasm, on point, in complete sentences without a teleprompter and without reading off a written speech. I remember thinking "she's a better speaker than her husband. I wish I could vote for her for president."

    Now I can, and I will--with enthusiastic conviction. And I know of many others. I am not a unicorn. My then-future SIL was at the same event, and she came away similarly impressed. We only recently realized that we were both there. But both of us carried that conviction to this day. I'm with Hillary.

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