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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    Warum?



    Can it be Tewa or Navajo?
    You're being silly bae. When people don't learn the national language, it makes life more difficult for them, and the people they are trying to talk to......be in the grocery store, the BMV, school, police, etc., etc. And then in the U.S., we start to think we have to adjust our classrooms, commercials, directions, signs, etc., etc. to include that other language. I'm sure many of us, if we moved to another country, would gladly learn the language......or maybe even have known it before moving there. It's just one of those things that would make life move along more smoothly for everyone.

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    Why do you think they want to talk to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    This is not what I was referring to..... obviously. It is people who do not know how to speak English but live here and do not even try to learn.
    I think that is their choice, although I could not imagine doing that myself - it would make life so difficult. Although the amount of time one is planning on living here would be a consideration. I lived in Italy for a while (military brat) - most military people did not learn the language because of the limited time they were to be there even though it was usually years.

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    This thread has been done to death. Of course adults who immigrate not speaking the language have a hard time, and may never speak English well. Their descendants will and do. Always. Unless, of course, they're religious isolationists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    This thread has been done to death. Of course adults who immigrate not speaking the language have a hard time, and may never speak English well. Their descendants will and do. Always. Unless, of course, they're religious isolationists.
    And if the isolationist put up too much fuss about it, you can always take away their children to government boarding schools to crush their language and culture.

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    Slightly off topic, but since we're talking language... Now that the political majority is somewhere between conservative and alt-right, does that change the definition of being "politically correct"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    This thread has been done to death. Of course adults who immigrate not speaking the language have a hard time, and may never speak English well. Their descendants will and do. Always. Unless, of course, they're religious isolationists.
    That's the story of my family's life. My great grandmother never learned any English beyond "Wanna cookie?" Otherwise she only ever spoke German. Apparently she felt it necessary to learn enough English to at least carry on important communication with her grandchildren, who only ever spoke English.

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    I was too young to remember much about the early 60's but my sister was much older and talked about all the riots when she lived in Milwaukee, people getting killed, cops overreacting to the rioters, black panthers, curfews, etc. I never forgot the stories and how horrible it sounded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    Slightly off topic, but since we're talking language... Now that the political majority is somewhere between conservative and alt-right, does that change the definition of being "politically correct"?
    Politically correct has always meant, at least to me, making an honest attempt to be polite to and respectful of people who are different from oneself. Otherwise known as having decent manners. The people who don't want to be politically correct generally don't seem to want to do either. They'd rather mock their disabilities, call them rapists and murders, make menstruation jokes about them or accuse them of being terrorists because of their religion. The definition of politically correct won't change. But the frequency of when it happens seems to be decreasing. This isn't particularly surprising since the president generally has enough media power to set the tone of conversation in the country and when the president (president elect at this point) is a douchebag a lot of people are likely to feel free to be douchebags themselves. But if any good comes of his election, at least the rest of us will forever know who the douchebags are among us.

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    Fortunately I don't know one person that voted for him.

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