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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    And if the isolationist put up too much fuss about it, you can always take away their children to government boarding schools to crush their language and culture.
    Like Chemawa, in Oregon. That was more a cultural version of genocide (soft genocide?) than a response to religion. But the Trumpies may be planning their own version of religious re-education camps as I type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    Bullys need no special inspiration, they grab whatever idea is in front of them at the moment to use as justification to badger somene else.

    I dont buy in whole the idea that there is a sudden increase in bullying and that is due to Donald Trump. These are perceptions, and biased perceptions at that, from a largely female population of professionals in education who do not like Trump.
    I do think that there are some that feel it is now ok to do bad things. Then there is the news, which loves stuff like this, because it drives up stories/coverage, and subscription rates. So in part, any idiots on the edge, may see the increased coverage, and become a self fulfilling cycle.
    But it is like anything, the news/media will milk it for all they can get.

    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    I don't find this arrogant! People in the US speak English.
    Did I miss a constitutional amendment, making English our national language?
    Last I knew, we just missed German by a bit, around the time of the Constitution and no national language was made. We had large German populations in my grandparents and great grandparents times. They "Americanized" the spellings of their names and such, sometime around the war to end all wars.
    If they had looked different, they probably would have ended up in interment camps, like the Japanese, or the Native American's.

    On top of that, there are those that say we don't even speak English. When looking for a translation dictionary, English to English, you will find it as British to American.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    And if the isolationist put up too much fuss about it, you can always take away their children to government boarding schools to crush their language and culture.
    And this is not ancient history, this was in many of our lifetimes, certainly mine

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    This thread has been done to death. Of course adults who immigrate not speaking the language have a hard time, and may never speak English well. Their descendants will and do. Always. Unless, of course, they're religious isolationists.
    Agreed, I dont understand the mentality that adults who immigrate here deliberately chose not to learn English. Why do you all who are making that claim say that?

    I expect they have tons to learn and a new language is just one more new thing.

    As someone who is not good with languages myself, I could only survive in other countries because so much of the world speaks English.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoe Girl View Post
    And this is not ancient history, this was in many of our lifetimes, certainly mine
    I have friends who went to these. They're not that old.

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    I have come back home after doing a voluntary patrol of part of the 85006 with my husband. This neighborhood, so long maligned by the city, I am ever more and more proud to live here. Not only did Hillary take the 85006 but we are ramping up our efforts to be a sanctuary zip code for all in the low human rights Trump Years. Anyone who enters the 85006 with a serious issue, we want then to be able to find a designated area with access to free help. So there's something positive for when the snotty white rich kids drive in from the suburbs looking to start blank....arrests for them and assistance for their victims. Also this is meant for DV victims and substance abusers. We refuse to sink behind in the 85006 due to the recent atrocious leadership decision. Rob

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    Specific terrors regarding potential human rights abuses during the Trump Years that keep up residents of the 85006 late at night: More police brutality due to sociopaths behind the badge feeling emboldened to kill at will with no legal leg to stand on.....cops thinking they can suddenly get away with this again due to Trump's win. (How do you even begin to forgive the United States for such evil? Beats me.) Also, among the large Hispanic population in the 85006, there is a great deal of terror of trigger happy sociopathic border agents, which are even harder to get charges to stick to. And Trump wants to triple their numbers! Watch for more murders of innocent Hispanics with people desperately camping outside embassies in Washington DC desperately seeking to middle finger America - as it so richly deserves on this one - via political asylum to another country. This is not far off......Smart people will watch for it as it may usher in easier political asylum for those who can't bear the regime another day. And that's my latest update on this thread. Interesting nightmare we have looming before us, no? Just remember, some will have the brains to use this all to start over or at least finish out their time under less nightmarish conditions elsewhere. Respect these people, these are the victors. Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife View Post
    So there's something positive for when the snotty white rich kids drive in from the suburbs looking to start blank....
    You get a lot of that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife View Post
    I have come back home after doing a voluntary patrol of part of the 85006 with my husband. This neighborhood, so long maligned by the city, I am ever more and more proud to live here. Not only did Hillary take the 85006 but we are ramping up our efforts to be a sanctuary zip code for all in the low human rights Trump Years. Anyone who enters the 85006 with a serious issue, we want then to be able to find a designated area with access to free help. So there's something positive for when the snotty white rich kids drive in from the suburbs looking to start blank....arrests for them and assistance for their victims. Also this is meant for DV victims and substance abusers. We refuse to sink behind in the 85006 due to the recent atrocious leadership decision. Rob
    What does the patrol do, exactly? Patrolling is good, it helps patrollers know what is going on in their neighborhood. I did a two hour stint this week of mobile patrol. Are you looking for those in trouble? Do you haul them to shelters?

    If "snotty white kids" are to be arrested, won't you have to call police? To the 85006 I mean. I thought you weren't going to summon police, ever. Just take their photo. Aren't they just agents for Trump anyway?

    So many questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    I have friends who went to these. They're not that old.
    Are these the "Indian Schools?"

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