Protesting is so good for the soul.....

[jp1]

http://www.insidehook.com/nation/old-cia-jet-sale

This would seem to be the perfect plane for United to add to their fleet. The flight attendants could deal with annoying passengers by saying "It's all about perspective, folks. Just shut up and be glad we aren't treating you the way the previous owners treated their passengers."

[Teacher Terry]

In the past year I have been flying United a lot because they offer the best price and schedule for going to KS from here. A month ago right before getting on the plane we were told to leave our small carry-ons and they would put them under the plane. I was trying to get my meds out and not drop my tiny dog on the ground and the pilot stopped to help me. All the flight attendants have been nice too. I am not going to stop flying them. Of course the incident was horrible but we are talking about a very big company that employs many people. Southwest has always been nice to fly with but I am not going to pay more to do that.

[bae]

You can do nothing but look the other way, as you have no authority to do anything, especially since you have also been talking about people who are not here.
Pot, kettle.

Rob is a moderator. Respect his authority.

[LDAHL]

In the past year I have been flying United a lot because they offer the best price and schedule for going to KS from here. A month ago right before getting on the plane we were told to leave our small carry-ons and they would put them under the plane. I was trying to get my meds out and not drop my tiny dog on the ground and the pilot stopped to help me. All the flight attendants have been nice too. I am not going to stop flying them. Of course the incident was horrible but we are talking about a very big company that employs many people. Southwest has always been nice to fly with but I am not going to pay more to do that.

I think you're right. I make choices based on price and convenience on the assumption that the rest is a crap shoot anyway.

In my experience of commercial air, much more misery seems to have been inflicted by my fellow passengers than by the airlines' staff. I suppose that's more or less inevitable when you cram many strangers into an uncomfortable enclosed space for hours at a time. It tends to be a test of character that many of us fail in different ways. The incident in question seems to have been a perfect storm of mutual idiocy and media hype.

[Teacher Terry]

When I fly I also go with a good attitude. I am choosing to do it so no need to be grumpy. I am always nice to everyone I encounter because there is no reason not to be. One time when we were flying to Europe 3 days in advance for my son's wedding and due to the airlines missed our connecting flight. There was no bad weather. My other son and husband and I stood in a long line for hours and was told when it was our turn nothing could be done to get us there for the wedding. Then my head started to swivel and I got very assertive but not nasty. I told them I did not care how they did it, get a supervisor, put us on another airline but we had paid 1400 each and I flew plenty of time in advance to get there. It was late at night and the employees just wanted to go home. My son said to give up and I told him to shut up and basically held up the line until they got a supervisor and put us on another airline. We ended up arriving Fri night for a Sat wedding with no clothes/luggage, etc. We quickly bought clothes on Sat. Our luggage took 4 days to catch up with us but I submitted receipts for everything we bought and was reimbursed. I agree that other passengers are often worse then the employees.

[sweetana3]

Teacher Terry, that is what we had to do in the 80s when our flight to NY was cancelled and the first answer was they, TWA, could not get us to Europe for the start of our TWA tour. After about 45 minutes, we had alternative arrangements (thankfully only carryons) and 24 hours later arrived just as tour was starting. I was persistent and would not leave the counter until a solution was found.

[Teacher Terry]

Sweetana: glad you did not miss your tour. I think the key is to hold up the line so they will finally make you happy to get rid of you.

[ToomuchStuff]

Rob is a moderator. Respect his authority.

I can't help but hear that in a voice that my nieces and nephews said:

I've seen a dozen of those over the years, no idea how long have they been on, but that always brings a chuckle.


On the more serious note, talking about people that are not here, well the rules apply to everybody. Someone with that title as well.

[Tybee]

If we are talking about what hurts us, it hurts me when Gimmethesimplelife bashes what he refers to as "America," as I am America as are my family and friends, and my ancestors,and we do none of the things that those men do who assaulted Dr. Dao, nor would we. It hurts because my relatives fought and died for this country, for my freedom--thank you, Uncle Bry.

So something to consider, how one labels things and who one may be insulting.

[LDAHL]

The way I see it, I spent seven years in an unflattering uniform precisely for people like Rob. I'm a First Amendment absolutist. Unless all of us are free to insult, label, discomfit, annoy and misrepresent each other, then ultimately none of us are. The fact that Rob can sneer and complain about his conception of America doesn't detract from its glory. It adds to it; and to the debt we owe the people who paid in blood for the freedoms, however abused, that we enjoy.