well, I don't know about "landless peasants" as opposed to "landowners", but sometimes I do think that citizens before they are allowed to vote, should know some basic facts about their own country. We make naturalized citizens pass tests on our history, laws and form of government in order to become citizens, maybe our home grown ones should have to meet the same standard.

Just saw this today: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...ans/?hpt=hp_t2

"Poll: 1776 date puzzles some Americans
By: CNN Political Unit


(CNN) - A slight majority of Americans know what year the United States declared independence, according to a new national survey.

The Marist Poll released in honor of America's Independence Day, July 4, showed 58 percent of residents aware their country declared independence in 1776. Twenty-six percent were unsure and 16 percent named another date. Younger Americans, those under 30 years of age, were less likely to have the correct answer with 31 percent, compared to Americans between the ages of 45 and 59 who said 1776 75 percent of the time.

One in four Americans also didn't know from which country the United States seceded, with 76 percent correctly naming Great Britain, 19 percent unsure and 5 percent naming another country.

The survey of 1,003 adults was conducted between June 15 and June 23 via telephone and had a sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points."

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Iris Lily, can you provide some factual cites for your charge that in St. Louis, voter fraud is rampant, ACORN did it, and that it's "poor blacks" doing the fraudulent voting, please? I know that in the ACORN scandal, there WERE people paid to go out and register voters, and some filled out the forms fraudulently, some as "Mickey Mouse", etc., but I never saw any information that any of those fake registrations actually resulted in "Mickey Mouse" showing up to vote, let alone voting "twice....or thrice"......

If you make that accusation, it's really up to you to back it up, if you want it to be considered. If you're just making noise, then don't bother.

Happy Fourth of July, everybody!!!!!!

It was heartwarming to watch our newest naturalized citizens take their oaths of citizenship in various locations today......definitely a Happy Fourth of July for them......