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    I looked it up and the east Coast is the most educated and the south the least. Education in Wisconsin has always been excellent and it’s still good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    But it's nice of them to offer their concern and advice for what we should be doing to win the election.
    What we should be doing is organizing a turnout too massive to be quashed by voter suppression, voting machine hacking, and whatever dirty tricks the Russian/Republican consortium has up their sleeves. And we should remember that timidity and appeasement are the mechanisms of cowardice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    What we should be doing is organizing a turnout too massive to be quashed by voter suppression, voting machine hacking, and whatever dirty tricks the Russian/Republican consortium has up their sleeves. And we should remember that timidity and appeasement are the mechanisms of cowardice.
    Just remember that if your side loses, it won't be because of any of those excuses, it will be because the new Democratic platform is too extreme for the majority and the vocal Democratic minority cannot mask their disdain for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    What we should be doing is organizing a turnout too massive to be quashed by voter suppression, voting machine hacking, and whatever dirty tricks the Russian/Republican consortium has up their sleeves. And we should remember that timidity and appeasement are the mechanisms of cowardice.
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    Just remember that if your side loses, it won't be because of any of those excuses, it will be because the new Democratic platform is too extreme for the majority and the vocal Democratic minority cannot mask their disdain for them.

    We warn you as a public service and for 'I told you so' rights after you fail to listen.
    It's not necessarily an either/or. It could very well be both. But if the 2018 midterms are any guide, I don't think the new democratic platform is too extreme. Going back to a Nixon-lite platform is not a winning strategy for the democrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teacher Terry View Post
    I looked it up and the east Coast is the most educated and the south the least. Education in Wisconsin has always been excellent and it’s still good.
    When DH and I were growing up, Iowa, Wisconsin, and Minnesota were always at the top of education measures. I think they were using test scores for that measure. ? but l
    also graduation rates. .?

    Now, Iowa has plunged down in ranks and I do not know why. Probly the ‘wascally wePublicans although when we were growing up we had a string of Republican governors. So who knows.

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    I believe FDR was demonstrably the most popular American president--if electability is any indication--and he was no shrinking violet. His "I welcome their hatred" speech is considered a masterpiece. Like jp1, I'm completely over Republicans masquerading as Democrats. I yearn for FDR 2020.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    When DH and I were growing up, Iowa, Wisconsin, and Minnesota were always at the top of education measures. I think they were using test scores for that measure. (.) but lso percapita graduation rates. .?

    Now, Iowa has plunged down in ranks and I do not know why. Probly the ‘wascally wePublicans although when we were growing up we had a string of Republican governors. So who knows.
    That was before Republicans realized that an ignorant electorate confers a tremendous advantage. We used to have Republicans with a modicum of character and principles, aside from naked greed. I used to vote for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    When DH and I were growing up, Iowa, Wisconsin, and Minnesota were always at the top of education measures. I think they were using test scores for that measure. ? but l
    also graduation rates. .?

    Now, Iowa has plunged down in ranks and I do not know why. Probly the ‘wascally wePublicans although when we were growing up we had a string of Republican governors. So who knows.
    I think sometimes education is confused with enlightenment. Is the Oberlin mob a model for us to aspire to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    That was before Republicans realized that an ignorant electorate confers a tremendous advantage. We used to have Republicans with a modicum of character and principles, aside from naked greed. I used to vote for them.
    Yes,
    I used to vote the Democratic ticket. Guess we made an even swap, no advantage for the opposing team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    Yes,
    I used to vote the Democratic ticket. Guess we made an even swap, no advantage for the opposing team.
    Just like DH and I.

    I think we need a third party or a reinvention of one of the two parties. They are both becoming caricatures of themselves.
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