Did I call you names or did I apply adjectives to your behavior?Originally Posted by Yppej
Did I call you names or did I apply adjectives to your behavior?
Teacher Terry seems happy with her life and I am happy with mine.
I have a job I like. There are numerous people in my life who love and value me. I am not desperate for a date as I have many interests in life including in the wonderful local area where I live.
That doesn't mean I like able-bodied adults who mooch off others.
Maybe Teacher Terry is. But you... I doubt that. Otherwise you would not have this creepy obsession with me.
How do you feel about it paying so much less than mine, especially since I am much younger and earlier in my career than you? (See how it feels when someone lobs petty, passive-aggressive insults at you? Not fun, right? Maybe time you stop doing it now that you know how it feels.)
Doubt it. LOL
Keep telling yourself that.
Who are you referring to?
It's just another way of keeping poor people down. I got my 4 year credential almost 30 years ago. In the entire time since then I have had precisely zero potential employer express any interest in it beyond the fact that I have it. No interest in what I studied. No interest in how good or poor my grades were. No interest in what institution it came from, beyond the fact that said institution used to have a kick-ass football program. But that degree has helped me obtain a steadily rising resume of "4 year degree required" jobs that did not utilize any particular aspect of the education I got from that institution.
Here’s the deal. Many of the items you mentioned to avoid Vietnam are dishonorable. When you are called to service it’s important to serve. Because his draft number made it inevitable he did the best thing he could by joining the marines and going in with a job guarantee so he wasn’t fighting in the jungle. He was repairing aircraft engines and also trained to do AC/heating repair. Still sent there and people were murdered on base and traveling between bases. I have no reason to move as I moved here when things were cheaper and we own our house. I feel sorry for younger people. I think there is a more reasonable payment between what you are paying and that huge payment. However, it’s legal. But there are so many inequalities with rich people getting breaks they don’t deserve. I would never want you to give up Harlan. That’s a tiny expense in the big scheme of things. Yes I think your debt should come before owning a home. I also think kids have no counseling before borrowing such huge amounts of money for degrees that will never pay off. Lenders are to blame also. I am not queen of the world so it doesn’t matter what I think. I just try to live my values. Everyone is different. What is so hard to understand about my HC cost. Based on years of service. Every year past 15 would have made my premium less.
Sounds like a bad deal to me.
Who defines what honor is? Who believes it?
Civil Disobedience (going to Canada) seems fine to me. Being a conscientious objector seems plenty honorable to me.
I remember when I was 12 my dad and I were talking about Vietnam. He was a medic there with the Marines (though he originally joined the Navy). I remember I said: "If there was another war like Vietnam, I would go to Canada."
He flipped out on me! He was very angry. But I stood up for my beliefs. Now, when I was actually military age my beliefs were more that I would just go to jail, like: "I am opposed to unjust wars and I will not take part. Go ahead and prosecute me. I will go to jail."
To me, that feels much more honorable than engaging in an unjust war.
Is it? Lots of cops in Alabama got called to serve in the 1960s. They put attack dogs and fire hoses on children. But it is important that they served when called by Bull Connor, right?
That may have been the best thing he thought to do. But again, he probably would have had a lot more fun in Montreal.
My dad joined the Navy when he was 17 in 1964. From 65-66 he volunteered to go to Vietnam, though he could have just stayed on a boat and gone to Japan again.
I feel my father made the wrong choice.
Murdered by whom?
Wait, so you moved to a place that was affordable? Thanks for proving my earlier points.
So long as they are not in the Public Service Loan Forgiveness program, right? Those PSLF younger people have no integrity and were raised by bad parents. Gotcha!
There is. It would be to stay on the Income Based Repayment plan (my payments are about $225 a month). But here is the thing. I could pay this until I was 200+ years old and never pay the debt off. Compound interest would mean I stay in debt until I die. Then I would be a dead moocher for eternity.
But here is the catch. For everyone who has government student loans the longest they can pay is 25 years. So everyone becomes a freeloading mooch if they cannot pay off their debt in 25 years.
Legal does not make something right or wrong. Transporting slaves on the underground railroad was illegal. Segregation was legal. You do the math.
Yeah, which is exactly why you should be so darned upset about people on the Public Service Loan Forgiveness plan. They are horrible beyond description.
Thanks. You love dogs too.
Tell that to your best friend Jeppy.
I have almost zero interest in buying a house.
I was one of those kids who had no counseling.
Agreed.
I think you are walking back some of your earlier statements because I called you out for sounding downright anti-social work.
I just try to live my values. Everyone is different. Uh... yeah.
Murdered by the Vietnam people. The soldiers always only half slept. My husband said that the people on base that were working were killing people at night. When we married he warned me to wake him up from nightmares at a distance. He is 73 and still has issues. It would certainly be your right to be a objector. Seriously I try not to focus on the injustices of the world. Plus we all have our own world view. I admire your dedication to your dog and I would live in my car before I would desert my babies. I hate it when people act like animals are disposable. I have people that will take ours if we both die. It’s one reason we have downsized from 4 to 2 by natural attrition. You could comfortably pay 500/month. Doing the math this would come closer to paying off your debt. But again it’s a individual decision.
Looking back at my dad's life I can remember having a discussion with him that is somewhat related. He had been drafted during the Korean war. He ended up going to Germany as part of the "peace-keeping force" No serious risk to his life, other than sleeping in a tent for 15 months in Germany's climate. He came back to the US after and applied to the post office to be a rural mail carrier. He was granted extra points on the civil service test because he was a veteran. Eventually he was offered a job by the post office but by then he had made other life plans so he (thankfully in my opinion) didn't take the rural carrier job. I was a teen when he told me this and I asked "why should you have gotten extra points?" His response: "because I served my country when they needed me."
For better or for worse congress decided that we needed to incentivize people to work in certain areas and offered student loan forgiveness as that incentive. Ultralight is taking advantage of that legal incentive. I don't see how it's any different than the incentive offered to my father when he got done serving in a non-war-zone in 1952.
Everyone in my family served in WW 2. My dad was in Europe. We Anything that they receive they deserved. Tomorrow I am going to a funeral for my BF’s dad that at 19 was trapped behind enemy lines in Korea because he was sent up a mountain to repair a communications line and left behind when they encountered fire. He survived by putting on a Korean soldiers uniform and marching with them at night and falling out of line in the morning. He was small and the koreans never looked each other in the eye. He had a 80% disability and still worked his entire life. Yes we are taking advantage of free burial for my husband in a veterans cemetery and paying 400 for me. Veterans earned it. They deserve to be hired first for government jobs.
And honestly, there are all sorts of things in life that just aren't fair. Thinking more about my father, he retired in 1992 with approximately $200,000 in assets invested in the stock market. He never touched those assets again for the rest of his life. He died 25 years later and they were valued at roughly $700,000. Thanks to the US tax code my sister and I paid $0 tax on that capital gain. Multiply that out over the top 0.1%'s various death capital gains resets and now you might start to figure out who you need to be angry at. And it ain't Ultralight.
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