Impeachment?

[bae]

That’s certainly bad, but it provides no evidence that any votes were affected. Nor, as Mueller said, is it evidence of collusion

All Putin has to do is sprinkle a little distrust, and watch us destroy ourselves. He doesn't actually *have* to collude or do much more than green-light the well-documented factories churning out increasingly-sophisticated and targeted Internet disinformation.

Reminds me of this Twilight Zone episode:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mo...n_Maple_Street

Which, oddly, was written about a similar thing...

The closing narration is both timely for the era the episode released in, and still applies today:

"The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions and fallout. There are weapons that are simply thoughts, attitudes, prejudices...to be found only in the minds of men. For the record, prejudices can kill...and suspicion can destroy...and a thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has a fallout all of its own – for the children and the children yet unborn. And the pity of it is that these things cannot be confined to the Twilight Zone."

[Gardnr]

Which states did they manage to hack? How many votes were changed?

The electoral college did not represent the popular vote as noted here:

[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.95)]In the final count, Hillary Clinton’s lead in the popular vote of the 2016 presidential election was nearly three million votes.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.95)]According to the independent, non-partisan Cook Political Report, Clinton’s final tally came in at 65,844,610, compared to Donald Trump’s 62,979,636, with a difference of 2,864,974. The total number of votes for other candidates was 7,804,213.


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[bae]

The electoral college did not represent the popular vote as noted here:

The electoral college votes not matching the popular vote is not evidence of "hacking".

[frugal-one]

Business likes the regulatory environment emanating from the White House.

You mean no regulatory oversight?

[frugal-one]

I remember when the What’s-the-Matter-With-Kansas crowd used to scold the voters for not “voting their interests”. That attitude may in fact have had a significant impact on the rise of Trump when the people being scolded took offense.

While I doubt a second Trump administration would be all that beneficial or harmful to my best financial interests, I’m pretty convinced some of the plans his opposition have for me would definitely be harmful.

So what am I to do? Vote Libertarian again?

So, where did that get you?

[frugal-one]

I think a lot of ethical Germans supported an unethical politician in the 1930s because they valued economic performance over morals.

Good luck with that approach, Rob.

As with current Republicans!

[JaneV2.0]

We'll probably never know how many votes were changed, because Republicans got their candidate elected, so would have no reason to investigate. They've been gerrymandering and suppressing votes and voters for years with this goal in mind. If Russia wanted to help out, it was A-OK with them.

The Mueller report suggested Congress would enact subpoenas and otherwise find the evidence necessary to hold this administration culpable of obstruction of justice. If the evidence they had had been presented to a fair-minded jury, it would certainly have convicted--and that's with all the lying and stonewalling that made up Trump regime "testimony." It's all there in print, if anyone had read it.

[Rogar]

I wonder if, theoretically speaking, a sitting president would be immune from prosecution if he did shoot some one in front of the White House. At least until he was removed from office.

I might have thought earlier that any comparison between now and Nazi Germany would be something of a false analogy. However, I look at the Breitbart web site every few months and just happened to this morning. Some of the deep state articles are at least disturbing and they will get hundreds or thousands of comments. Most disturbing today was a transcript of a Stephen Miller interview on executive power. There are some scary people out there and some of them are in the drivers seat. I don't doubt that the hate fest of comments is fueled or seeded by Russians.

[JaneV2.0]

Stephen Miller makes my blood run cold.
In a work of fiction, he would be the reincarnation of Adolf Eichmann or Oskar Dirlewanger.

[LDAHL]

So, where did that get you?

Clean.