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    Is there a reason for the greater good that I ought to consider voting for him that I've missed in my aggravation?
    Not for the greater good at all, but the major driving forces keeping him there (my understanding):

    1) he's stuffing the judiciary with right leaning picks. Meaning well after he's gone, he'll be indirectly responsible for conservative policy. 2) for some its all about abortion, and anything that can stymie abortion or outright make it illegal is a good thing. 3) the rest of the agenda is specific groups wanting less regulations (eg dumping waste into our waterways for coal producers).

    Plus Russia. Moscow Mitch isn't going to do anything to secure elections or sanction Russians, because he got a Russian oligarch to invest 200 million into an aluminum mill in Kentucky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by herbgeek View Post
    Plus Russia. Moscow Mitch isn't going to do anything to secure elections or sanction Russians, because he got a Russian oligarch to invest 200 million into an aluminum mill in Kentucky.
    Well, at least McConnell's constituents will get something out of it, the Clintons got a Russian oligarch to give 145 million to their foundation and an additional 500,000 to Bill for an hour long speech. It must have hurt their pocketbook when all that money dried up after Hillary lost the election.

    I often find myself smiling when people bring up Russia in the Public Policy Forum, it seems like only yesterday when Mitt Romney mentioned Russia as a threat to this country in a presidential debate and Barack Obama snickered and suggested that the 1980's called and wanted their foreign policy back. Romney was then roasted in the media as well as here for being so out of touch. Good times!
    "Things should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." ~ Albert Einstein

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    Considering that he only got 46% of the votes I’m not sure I’d call it a large chunk of the electorate.
    Clearly it was large enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kib View Post
    Has Trump actually done things you, as an intellectually gifted person, find to be of benefit to anyone but himself and a handful of his pets? ...?
    srsly? I mean, you have seen the stock market, right? You’ve see the unemployment rate, right?

    I know you have been gone from this website for a while, so you may not know that I cashed in on some gains of the Tump bump in the markets and bought a red sports car for cash. But perhaps I’m just one of his “pets. “

    I didn’t vote for him then I doubt I’ll vote for him next fall. But it is not productive to say there is nothing for the greater good that has come about with him in office because a strong economy is very much for the greater good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    But it is not productive to say there is nothing for the greater good that has come about with him in office because a strong economy is very much for the greater good.
    I don't typically credit Presidents with responsibility for the stock market, economy or the unemployment rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    srsly? I mean, you have seen the stock market, right? You’ve see the unemployment rate, right?

    I know you have been gone from this website for a while, so you may not know that I cashed in on some gains of the Tump bump in the markets and bought a red sports car for cash. But perhaps I’m just one of his “pets. “

    I didn’t vote for him then I doubt I’ll vote for him next fall. But it is not productive to say there is nothing for the greater good that has come about with him in office because a strong economy is very much for the greater good.
    I wasn't really saying that nothing good has come, what I was saying was that I probably don't see it because I find him so offensive. I'm not comfortable with the volatility he brings to the market with his tweeting and meaningless innuendo, but it is true that the market has been on an upward trajectory since he showed up. It's nice you could buy a fab car. And no, I don't think you're one of his pets, I'm talking about sweeties like Putin and Kim Jong Un.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    Clearly it was large enough.
    But barely. And since the last election a significant number of suburban women have apparently found him, and republicans in general, to be not worthy of their vote. Since he's done nothing to try and attract anyone to vote for him that didn't vote for him last time it'll be interesting to see how the election plays out, assuming of course that the senate republicans follow Moscow Mitch's lead and completely ignore the evidence when deciding whether he needs to be removed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kib View Post
    I wasn't really saying that nothing good has come, what I was saying was that I probably don't see it because I find him so offensive. I'm not comfortable with the volatility he brings to the market with his tweeting and meaningless innuendo, but it is true that the market has been on an upward trajectory since he showed up. It's nice you could buy a fab car. And no, I don't think you're one of his pets, I'm talking about sweeties like Putin and Kim Jong Un.
    Actually the market has been on an upward trajectory since Obama showed up. But I tend to agree with bae that the president has little more influence on the market than I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    a strong economy is very much for the greater good.
    Obviously this is a reasonable statement. I guess the only question is how one defines strong economy. I vaguely remember trump promising to bring back lots of manufacturing jobs for all the people suffering in the rustbelt. I wonder how those voters define "strong economy", and whether their definition would match with yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    Actually the market has been on an upward trajectory since Obama showed up. But I tend to agree with bae that the president has little more influence on the market than I do.
    I've been doing some day trading, and if I could spend the ten minutes before a chinese/mexican/canadian/north korean negotiations tweet as a fly on the wall, I could make millions. And I'm sure someone is. "Maybe sooner than you think." Zooommm!!! "Might wait til I get re-elected." Keeeee-rash!! This nonsense may not have a long term bearing on the market, but his pressure on the fed, the instability he's causing in the overall reliability of foreign trade, and his continuing efforts to loosen fiscal regulation standards almost certainly will.

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