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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    I realize that pledging allegiance to this country isn't a republican thing these days, but how far has the republican party fallen that they consider people doing so to be "entertaining"?
    It's only entertaining if the person doing so has made a career of trampling every constitutional principle duly enshrined as a barrier to government control of the people. You can't help but admire the balls that takes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    It's only entertaining if the person doing so has made a career of trampling every constitutional principle duly enshrined as a barrier to government control of the people. You can't help but admire the balls that takes.
    You give politicians in DC too much credit, Alan. US police trample constitutional principles every day all around the United States - something which you seem to support via auto-siding with police at the drop of a hat. My point is there are other players beyond Donald J Trump actively trashing the Constitution on a daily basis. You can add US CBP to the list of such players, also. Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    I think this impeachment spectacle has been highly entertaining. I just watched Nancy Pelosi place her hand over her heart and recite the Pledge of Allegiance during her designated 3 minutes of speaking time during the Rules Committee debate. Now I wouldn't be surprised to see Antifa groups singing God Bless America during their regularly scheduled rampages. These are indeed interesting times.
    At some point in the various testimonies it's all seemed like a show of rhetoric repeating the same things over and over. That has been interesting and an education in itself. If I were on trial for something it would be nice to have either side of the legal experts wordsmith my defense. They talk a fine talk. I've listen to samples from the beginning, but am sorry I missed the Pelosi oration. It does seem a little silly, but a good showing, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife View Post
    You give politicians in DC too much credit, Alan. US police trample constitutional principles every day all around the United States - something which you seem to support via auto-siding with police at the drop of a hat.
    It's not that I automatically side with the police in every instance, I just try to remind you that the police are not a single entity. When you go off on police it's the same as someone else saying all gays are pedophiles. When put that way I think even you can see that your stance requires a little pushback, cantcha?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    It's only entertaining if the person doing so has made a career of trampling every constitutional principle duly enshrined as a barrier to government control of the people. You can't help but admire the balls that takes.
    Sort of like when she begins a sentence with “As a Catholic...”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    At some point in the various testimonies it's all seemed like a show of rhetoric repeating the same things over and over. That has been interesting and an education in itself. If I were on trial for something it would be nice to have either side of the legal experts wordsmith my defense. They talk a fine talk. I've listen to samples from the beginning, but am sorry I missed the Pelosi oration. It does seem a little silly, but a good showing, too.
    Yes. It seemed like a contest between Pharisees. The evidence was either “overwhelming” or “nonexistent” depending who was speaking. Members either had no choice but to perform their constitutional duty or were weaponizing the process for petty partisan reasons. Didn’t someone once say something about patriotism being the last refuge of a scoundrel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    I was referring to the actual, you know, hearing. On the one hand we had a measured and credible witness. On the other we had a shrieking man child and his angry defenders.
    I agree with what Orrin Hatch said about the Democratic questioners going “borking mad”, claiming he would destroy the constitution and bring in a new era of tyranny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    It's not that I automatically side with the police in every instance, I just try to remind you that the police are not a single entity. When you go off on police it's the same as someone else saying all gays are pedophiles. When put that way I think even you can see that your stance requires a little pushback, cantcha?
    Not a good comparison, Alan. A pedophile that gets caught is going to face SERIOUS consequences - as they should in my book. Gay or straight has no rebalance here.....it's a sick and twisted crime period. Now police on the other hand? Have until very recently, until Ferguson showed the world what American police are truly all about, and smartphone video enabled victims to both sue for millions and shine a flashlight daily on the truth of American police...until these two events took place, police have enjoyed breaking the law, even to the point of murder with no consequence. Not the same thing, Alan, though I'd agree that slowly this is changing. Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife View Post
    Not a good comparison, Alan. A pedophile that gets caught is going to face SERIOUS consequences - as they should in my book. Gay or straight has no rebalance here.....it's a sick and twisted crime period. Now police on the other hand? Have until very recently, until Ferguson showed the world what American police are truly all about, and smartphone video enabled victims to both sue for millions and shine a flashlight daily on the truth of American police...until these two events took place, police have enjoyed breaking the law, even to the point of murder with no consequence. Not the same thing, Alan, though I'd agree that slowly this is changing. Rob
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    I guess I was wrong.
    We all have our off days, Alan. Myself included in that. Rob

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