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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    If that testimony would be so crucial, why didn’t the Democrats use the legal tools available to them and take the time needed to force those witnesses to talk during the process they could control? Why the hurry up and wait strategy?

    The corollary would be, why couldn't they just come forward. If there were no wrong doing they could add important information to the case. As it is, it looks like they are hiding something. Of course it would ruin the GOP defense that all the evidence is second or third hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    The corollary would be, why couldn't they just come forward. If there were no wrong doing they could add important information to the case. As it is, it looks like they are hiding something. Of course it would ruin the GOP defense that all the evidence is second or third hand.
    I think executives are funny that way, not wanting to give Congress too much authority over them. All President's seem to guard their executive privilege as much as possible so it always takes the courts to resolve issues between the executive and the legislative. I believe both sides want to keep the courts out of this one, if the Democrats get the courts to add force to their subpoenas it's very much likely that the Republicans can also force the Democrats to provide witnesses familiar with the origins of the initial complaint, and they don't want that.
    "Things should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." ~ Albert Einstein

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    Here's what Rich Lowry at National Review had to say:

    It looks like Pelosi is going to delay sending over the articles of impeachment, which is a really bad idea. One, this is not a way to exercise leverage over McConnell, because he doesn’t care to have the articles sent over in the first place. Two, it’s bizarre to try to force the Senate to fight to get witnesses that the House didn’t make much of an effort to get itself. Three, this contradicts the argument that impeachment was such an urgent necessity that it had to be rushed. Four, it will make impeachment look even more partisan and political. Five, it is exactly the wrong tack to win over those Republicans who might be persuadable on witness like Romney and Collins. Besides all that, it’s a brilliant idea.

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    I remember Clinton testifying, and again, McDougal being jailed (must of her sentence spent in solitary confinement) because she didn't.
    Lying about adult consensual sex pales in comparison to Trump's criminality.

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    At least the House impeached. I felt less embarrassed than I usually do when I texted my relatives in Vienna this morning. Of course I realize that the Senate will trample the will of the people to line Trump's and their own pockets. But at least yesterday one branch of the US government did the right thing. Since such is so rare in American politics under Trump, I'm wondering how difficult it would be to get a library or airport named after Nancy Pelosi, as a gesture of respect for everyday hard working Americans victimized by Trump's policies? Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    I remember Clinton testifying, and again, McDougal being jailed (must of her sentence spent in solitary confinement) because she didn't.
    Lying about adult consensual sex pales in comparison to Trump's criminality.
    I still believe, and always have, that the whole Lewinsky thing? Tawdry, yes.....but also none of our business. To me this matter resided exclusively with the Clintons and Ms. Lewinsky.....though I'd also say that their meetings - nice way to put it, no? - would have been better advised taking place somewhere not taxpayer subsidized....i.e., not in the Oval Office. Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    Ferguson cops are still showing the world what American police are all about. Today’s headline news:

    https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...home-top-story

    tldr; Ferguson cops pull 10 year old boy out of icy swimming pool. Too bad, the kid didnt live.

    I wasn’t going to respond to Rob’s post but the Ferguson story seem timely. Just as a reminder to real life, Mike Brown grappled with a police officer and was not an innocent victim when he was shot in August 2014.It is wise not to get into a physical altercation with a police officer.
    IL, I'm sure your post is true. I'll give you that but with one HUGE caveat. You are not telling the whole story. A big reason that Ferguson went ballistic in the first place? The extreme predatory fining of the Ferguson PD. Micheal Brown's murder was just an ignition device for the powder keg already there, fully created by those if whom you approve at the Ferguson PD. No one in Ferguson will forget the predatory fining and neither will I. It's too American. Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife View Post
    IL, I'm sure your post is true. I'll give you that but with one HUGE caveat. You are not telling the whole story. A big reason that Ferguson went ballistic in the first place? The extreme predatory fining of the Ferguson PD. Micheal Brown's murder was just an ignition device for the powder keg already there, fully created by those if whom you approve at the Ferguson PD. No one in Ferguson will forget the predatory fining and neither will I. It's too American. Rob
    Should be created by those of whom you fully approve above. Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife View Post
    Ay carumba. Revelance. There, finally got the word right. Rob
    Well, close enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    Well, close enough.
    Ok Boomer.

    https://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...term=revelance

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