Impeachment?

[Rogar]

Democrats have been searching for any reason to impeach for the past 3 years. During tonight's debate Tom Steyer bragged that he's been using his time and resources to promote impeachment for the past two years. It sounds to many people the Democrats have just recently found a possible basis for their coup and are running with it, so I think you're right, someone's gonna have to justify their actions and make a convincing case for why it's not their new normal.

I understand that we are a nation of laws determined by the Constitution when it comes to impeachment, but they are not the only laws that determine a presidents fitness for office. I believe Donald's moral compass is broken and he is not capable of wise decisions regarding national security and global stability. There are laws common to many faiths that might resemble the Ten Commandments of which Trump has broken several. Like the CT article says, "it’s time to call a spade a spade, to say that no matter how many hands we win in this political poker game, we are playing with a stacked deck of gross immorality and ethical incompetence."

For those reasons I find no fault for looking hard at Donald's transgressions that would justify impeachment. He is a non-traditional if not radical president and the reality of that is that he would have a microscope on all of his dealings and he finally messed up. He is an expert in maneuvering through the legal systems and is wise in that matter. Something that his political associates such as Roger Stone and Manafort have not been so skilled. They had to get Capone on tax evasion even though they tried to arrest him for years on charges that would stick.

I'll stick by the laws of the nation as providing some form of justice, but find no fault in looking hard at all of Donald's dealings from the start of his inauguration. That's part of our legal freedoms, too.

[LDAHL]

I’d like to see Trump go. My preference would be to do that through the ballot box rather than a weaponized constitutional process.

I think the perception of much of the public is that after three years of searching for a hook, his enemies finally latched onto something they could work with. As presidential scandals and infractions go, this one seems pretty minor compared to much of the past century or so. I suspect a sufficiently motivated Congress could have found sufficient reason to impeach most of the presidents of my lifetime. This one will appear to be part of a political jihad regardless of the facts of the case. Much like the Clinton impeachment was. I think that is how many voters will remember it, and the aftertaste will be bitter for some years to come as the bar is lowered for the future. His enemies will couch their actions in patriotic sanctimony and pecksniff legalism; and they won’t be entirely wrong. But his enemies’ enemies will remember and wait for their chance at reprisal.

Does he deserve to be booted out of office? I think so. But I think the upcoming election is the cleanest way to make that happen. At very least, should he win a second term, No one will be able to say they weren’t warned.

[JaneV2.0]

Yeah--I have to laugh at those characterizing the continuation and amplification of FDR's programs as "radical," when we have the most egregious radical possible sitting in the white house, colluding with our enemies to solidify his power.

[LDAHL]

Yeah--I have to laugh at those characterizing the continuation and amplification of FDR's programs as "radical," when we have the most egregious radical possible sitting in the white house, colluding with our enemies to solidify his power.

If nothing else, he may go down in history for finally getting the American Left to recognize Russia as an enemy rather than a honeymoon destination.

[JaneV2.0]

If nothing else, he may go down in history for finally getting the American Left to recognize Russia as an enemy rather than a honeymoon destination.

That's a high price to pay for a little clarity.

[iris lilies]

That's a high price to pay for a little clarity.

hahaha,
i think you are both right.

[LDAHL]

That's a high price to pay for a little clarity.

It takes a lot to dispel over a century of self-delusion.

[JaneV2.0]

It takes a lot to dispel over a century of self-delusion.

Somebody forgot to notify Tucker Carlson...

[Teacher Terry]

I would just like to wake up and the orange moron has disappeared)

[gimmethesimplelife]

I would just like to wake up and the orange moron has disappeared)

As long as we don't get him in the 85006! Like he'd really live there anyway lol. I agree with your lost 100 percent, TT. Rob