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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    I’m sure she’s wringing her hands as I type this. Guaranteed the only way she votes for witnesses is if she’s one of 3 who do so.
    Oh I don't know, she may want to make sure the Democrats get the same number of Republican votes for witnesses that the Republicans got from the Democrats during the last one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    I’m sure she’s wringing her hands as I type this. Guaranteed the only way she votes for witnesses is if she’s one of 3 who do so.

    If Mitch manages to end this without an actual trial it’s going to be hilarious watching Bolton lob more bombs at the republicans every few days. Although it’s going to be tough to outdo today’s bomb. I mean seriously, trump’s defense attorney is a co-conspirator in the crime?
    I had not heard this, that Trump's defense attorney is a co-conspirator in the crime? And people are seriously going to vote for Donald Trump in 2020? Beam me up, I'm seeing a lack of intelligent life here - at least amongst those who would continue to vote for Trump after all the givens the past three years have featured. Rob

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    It would appear as if the system has failed America once again....after Bolton's shocker how can the GOP senators actually acquit Trump without lasting damage to both the United States and the GOP brand? And how could anyone actually have any faith in the United States again in this lifetime? Clearly the rule of law does not apply to all equally in the US - what does America hope to gain by making such brutally clear to it's citizens/legal residents, and to the entire remainder of the world? I just don't get it but I'm not one bit surprised. Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife View Post
    It would appear as if the system has failed America once again....after Bolton's shocker how can the GOP senators actually acquit Trump without lasting damage to both the United States and the GOP brand? And how could anyone actually have any faith in the United States again in this lifetime? Clearly the rule of law does not apply to all equally in the US - what does America hope to gain by making such brutally clear to it's citizens/legal residents, and to the entire remainder of the world? I just don't get it but I'm not one bit surprised. Rob
    Monday’s Gallup poll shows that quite a lot of people have quite a lot of “faith in America “. Gallup reports quite a lot of satisfied customers in this US of A. For those who don’t want to read the article, just look at the slides below. 84% say they are happy with life in America.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    Oh I don't know, she may want to make sure the Democrats get the same number of Republican votes for witnesses that the Republicans got from the Democrats during the last one.
    49 Yay's, 51 Nay's. Looks like the Republicans provided twice as many votes to allow witnesses than the Democrats did last time.
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    I consider the failure of the impeachment in the Senate a foregone conclusion -- partly because of the Republican numbers there but I also feel like the Democrats mishandled the impeachment effort in a number of ways. At this point, I am just hoping that the failure to allow witnesses will convince the few Democrats who are on the fence not to vote for acquittal. I don't want Trump to be able to characterize his acquittal as "bipartisan."

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    Also, I thought that the Clinton impeachment did have witnesses, although they "testified" via excerpts of sworn video depositions that were conducted during the Senate proceedings.

    This time around, maybe I'm misremembering, but I thought that in the House Managers' opening statement, they said that every single impeachment to date (including officers other than presidents) had included witnesses and at least several had included numerous "new" witnesses, meaning witnesses who had not testified in the House. But they did not seem to be emphasizing in recent days that this would be the first time in history a Senate impeachment trial did not have witnesses, so perhaps I misunderstood . . .

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    Can the House just reopen an impeachment effort next Monday?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mamalatte View Post
    Also, I thought that the Clinton impeachment did have witnesses, although they "testified" via excerpts of sworn video depositions that were conducted during the Senate proceedings.
    They did, there were four. The Democrats voted unanimously (excepting Russ Feingold) to disallow, but they lost 56-44.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    Can the House just reopen an impeachment effort next Monday?
    That seems kind of quick, it takes time to groom an anonymous whistleblower.
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