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    Quote Originally Posted by Simplemind View Post
    The Chinese restaurants as well as the Asian markets are struggling.
    I have heard that this is the case even here. I did go to my favorite Asian supermarket today to stock up on some things I'd want in the house if we're there for a while and it was as full as I expected it to be. In fact, I was surprised at how many customers there today were not of Asian descent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yppej View Post
    HIV - Africa - eating monkey
    Ebola - Africa - eating bush meat
    1918 flu - pig farms brought this to the US
    Swine flu - from Mexico
    SARS, Hong Kong flu, Coronavirus - Chinese meat markets



    Frugal-one, what are comparable viral pandemics that originated in India?

    The way I took your previous post was every illness (or most) could be contained by eating vegetarian.

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    I took it as a moral case for vegetarianism. I'm often persuaded by the case .... up to a point. But I have reactions to eggs and can't seem to take them in more than extremely moderate amounts. And though it's not as bad as eggs, I don't do well with dairy beyond a certain point either. And pretty soon I'm forced closer to veganism if I went that route. And I like legumes just fine and they are a regular part of my diet and not something I have any issue with unless my digestive system is very weak (after antibiotics), however I don't actually want to be a vegan. And that's kind of as far as that ever really goes.
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    I see, especially in China, massive amounts of chemicals being sprayed especially on the roadways. I'm wondering what they use and what effects that will have on one's health? Even if it's "just" 'Clorox', that could be a problem. When clorox breaks down, it becomes more toxic than when it started out (at least according to our local board of health). When the well guys chlorinated our well, and they tell me how much to use the next time, they say plus or minus 8 gallons. The health department says something like a pint, and that when it breaks down in our finger system, it's even more toxic.

    Anyhow........it must be a real dilemma for these places.....risk from corona virus, versus risk from the chemicals being sprayed.

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    "The United States has reported a second death from the Coronavirus amid fears the virus has spread undetected in the Seattle suburbs for weeks."--New York Times

    This is strangely comforting--that it's been lurking nearby all this time. I wonder how many people just thought they had the usual winter infections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    OK, I'll bite. At this point, what part of the US response to the coronavirus is inadequate?
    https://www.abc10.com/article/news/h...c-9a0cbb9be372

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    At this point it's just gaslighting, saying everything is going wonderful with corona virus response, making people doubt their sanity in perfectly credible news reports from credible sources. Look in this age there is a lot of misinformation floating around about everything under the sun, so one's hold on reality is easy to doubt (am i really sure? it's this just some lie someone passed on from a twitter thread or something? where did I learn this?). But come on.
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    Test kit folly:

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020...y-soon-improve

    "But there’s widespread discontent with the way the system has worked. “The U.S. government has not appropriately prioritized diagnostic tests and supported the laboratory response network to the degree they should have been supported over the years,” says Luciana Borio, who in previous jobs had lead roles in responding to emerging threats at the National Security Council and FDA.

    If a new disease emerges, CDC normally “gets the ball rolling” with diagnostics because it has the expertise and the biosafety laboratories to handle dangerous novel pathogens, says Borio, who now works for In-Q-Tel, a not-for-profit venture capital firm. Typically, there are few confirmed viral samples from patients at the outset, which researchers need to validate their tests, and CDC has the capability to grow the virus for this critical quality assurance step. Once the agency has a working test, that goes out to state labs. Then, in a third phase, commercial labs take over and either produce their own tests or scale-up the CDC one. “I would have hoped to see that third phase by now,” Borio says."

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    Test kit folly:
    Infuriating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore View Post
    At this point it's just gaslighting, saying everything is going wonderful with corona virus response
    The only people I hear saying "Never mind the man behind the curtain" are the liar in the White House and his hired toadies. The career folks in government and public-health folks whose job it is to use science and evidence to understand our world are saying this already is far worse than "very very minor" and likely will get more widespread before it somehow is kept under control.

    I'm one for considering the source. Some appointed suit who does not believe in science telling me "things are o-tay" is not getting a pass from me.

    With the exception of a few items, we are ready for whatever we can do to flatten the curve of the spread of COVID-19. A visit to a few stores here showed pretty normal stock levels of everything, though one friend of ours posted that Costco was a madhouse on Sunday and someone posted pictures of bare shelves at a local Target that was featuring a very good sale on paper products.

    The only thing I'd like to do now is maybe to buy some stock in Amazon and services like Shipt. I suspect delivery services like those going to get really busy if/when this illness breaks out big(ly).
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