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    My cousin had type 1 diabetes as a baby. My son had asthma at 1. I will tell them to get healthy. ��

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yppej View Post
    Yes, healthcare workers are at risk. But imagine a world in which all infectious diseases were eliminated from the face of the earth. How many of them would be out of work? Their whole profession is based on people being sick. The US healthcare model incentivizes treatment of illnesses rather than prevention. I write that we should encourage people to improve their lifestyles so they are less susceptible to the coronavirus and people disagree.
    I’m not sure how to do that. Despite walking miles everyday and eating right I’m still almost 70. Plus that pesky asthma despite never smoking ever in my life. Maybe I should step up to the plate and take one for the team.

    My career was a nurse and my whole work life was based on prevention not cure. The medical practice I go to is all about prevention. But taking away healthcare, like the Republicans have done with their repeal and replace with nothing sounds like a recipe to promote infectious diseases, illness and death.

    How can we imagine a world without infectious diseases if we don’t work with WHO, fund scientists and follow the recommendations of physicians and scientists?

    Im really confused how the current situation isn’t a mass death plan for people who are poor, of color and old. I really mean that. I’m not trying to be clever or cute, just trying to figure out what is going on and what the end plan is besides to pollute the planet to make more money, let the burdensome die, and make the rich richer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardnr View Post

    Please do share, what makes a person "suspectible"to Coronovirus? And how would one prevent asthma? How does one prevent old age? Why does a child get Type 1 Diabetes that goes on with them through adulthood? How does one prevent hypertension?


    Who is most at risk for the coronavirus disease?

    People of all ages can be infected by the new coronavirus (2019-nCoV). Older people, and people with pre-existing medical conditions (such as asthma, diabetes, heart disease) appear to be more vulnerable to becoming severely ill with the virus.
    You answered your own question regarding what conditions make one susceptible to bad outcomes from corona. Not every case is tied to lifestyle but many are. For instance, while Type 1 diabetes is not, it's Type 2 in this country, tied to lifestyle, that has skyrocketed over the past few decades. Hypertension can often be prevented - or reversed - with diet and exercise. Smoking is one of the risk factors for asthma and COPD. But I understand many people don't want to change their lifestyles. It is easier to just take a pill. I've heard people say things like I am not going to cut back my drinking, I'll just take the statins.

    Regarding old age, we all have to die sometime of something. There is no fountain of youth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teacher Terry View Post
    My cousin had type 1 diabetes as a baby. My son had asthma at 1. I will tell them to get healthy. ��
    Yup. You've got some serious work to do!!!! Does this make you a Mom failure?

    Ridiculous!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yppej View Post
    You answered your own question regarding what conditions make one susceptible to bad outcomes from corona. Not every case is tied to lifestyle but many are. For instance, while Type 1 diabetes is not, it's Type 2 in this country, tied to lifestyle, that has skyrocketed over the past few decades. Hypertension can often be prevented - or reversed - with diet and exercise. Smoking is one of the risk factors for asthma and COPD. But I understand many people don't want to change their lifestyles. It is easier to just take a pill. I've heard people say things like I am not going to cut back my drinking, I'll just take the statins.

    Regarding old age, we all have to die sometime of something. There is no fountain of youth.
    good to know your healthcare experience is so much better and expansive than mine.

    I don't know a single asthmatic that ever smoked. I don't know of a single child asthmatic who smoked. I know many healthy/active people with hypertension.

    Don't whitewash the problem with sweeping "get healthy" statements.

    I guess we'll just sit back and watch more people die. Body bags all around!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardnr View Post
    I guess we'll just sit back and watch more people die. Body bags all around!
    One of the first logistical models I did earlier in the year for local Emergency Management included a spreadsheet tab labelled "Body Bags". That was a bit daunting.

    But sure, stack 'em high.

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    Covid 19 has become the new Student Loan Forgiveness Program on this board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardnr View Post
    good to know your healthcare experience is so much better and expansive than mine.

    I don't know a single asthmatic that ever smoked. I don't know of a single child asthmatic who smoked. I know many healthy/active people with hypertension.

    Don't whitewash the problem with sweeping "get healthy" statements.

    I guess we'll just sit back and watch more people die. Body bags all around!
    My mother was diagnosed with asthma as a young person. Her doctor told her that smoking would help. She smoked for 40 or 50 years. I never knew her to suffer asthma symptoms.

    Speaking of body bags: "In mid-March, as the Seattle region grappled with a coronavirus outbreak, a community health center caring for the area's Native American population made an urgent request to county, state and federal health agencies: Please send medical supplies.

    What it received almost three weeks later left staff members stunned.

    "My team turned ghost white," said Esther Lucero, chief executive officer of the Seattle Indian Health Board. "We asked for tests, and they sent us a box of body bags."
    "

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    Quote Originally Posted by herbgeek View Post
    Covid 19 has become the new Student Loan Forgiveness Program on this board.
    Does that make masks the new salad spinner? :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    "My team turned ghost white," said Esther Lucero, chief executive officer of the Seattle Indian Health Board. "We asked for tests, and they sent us a box of body bags."[/I]"
    To be fair, body bags are medical supplies/PPE. And you need more of them for this than you do for other things - our protocol requires double-bagging.

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