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    Here is a new take on fighting covid:

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...s-obesity.html

    Finally someone is focused on risk factors, though I think a public health campaign would be better than a ban, which could just drive the behavior underground a la Prohibition.

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    It's also of course like so much else, not necessarily aligned with the latest research. Being overweight is shown to be a risk factor for coronavirus in younger *men*. It has not been shown to be a risk factor in women. Of course men are more at risk for corona deaths in general.

    So I really wish women concerned with losing 10 pounds to look good in a swimsuit or other clothes, would just admit it was about that, not really about "their health".

    And I'm not sure any of it has any real link to becoming a long hauler which seems to affect women more (risk factors for being a long hauler may not even be known, seems to hit basically healthy people, but it does hit women more maybe because they have stronger immune response).

    And it's really trying to solve an immediate crisis (the pandemic) with measures that might have some long term impact mostly on other health problems, not coronavirus.
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    I heard on the radio today of a confirmed case of a person being infected by covid twice, the first time in China and the second time after he travelled to Europe. These were two different strains of covid. I think we need to ban all international travel because as the virus evolves new strains will pop up around the world that no one here has immunity against.

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    IL (and Chicago) are putting businesses in between a rock and a hard place. They are fining businesses for customers not wearing masks/not enforcing the mask order. However, there are no fines for individuals refusing to wear masks. The businesses are risking their employees getting in confrontations with customers for pointing out no masks being worn.

    I’m not saying people should be fined for not wearing masks, but what worker is going to want to risk physical confrontation enforcing the mask order? We’ve heard of plenty of those.

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    Tradd our managers get a management newsletter. Yesterday's issue had a story that managers trained in de-escalation tactics not front line employees should be enforcing mask mandates, but most places it is the opposite.

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    A guy at work was telling me once we have a vaccine people will be getting sick with other illnesses because the masks have blocked incoming germs and weakened their immune systems. They have lost the ability to fight off germs. This sounds like a corollary of the hygiene hypothesis.

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    A guy at work the other day was telling me something different, but he's just an infectious disease control doctor from U.W., so he probably doesn't know anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yppej View Post
    A guy at work was telling me once we have a vaccine people will be getting sick with other illnesses because the masks have blocked incoming germs and weakened their immune systems. They have lost the ability to fight off germs. This sounds like a corollary of the hygiene hypothesis.
    And, you believe everything "a guy" at work tells you. From what you have relayed previously, you should not trust anything they say or do.

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    Y, your work mates are idiots!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tradd View Post
    IL (and Chicago) are putting businesses in between a rock and a hard place. They are fining businesses for customers not wearing masks/not enforcing the mask order. However, there are no fines for individuals refusing to wear masks. The businesses are risking their employees getting in confrontations with customers for pointing out no masks being worn.

    I’m not saying people should be fined for not wearing masks, but what worker is going to want to risk physical confrontation enforcing the mask order? We’ve heard of plenty of those.
    My city is also putting business between a rock and a hard place. It is requiring bars to close earlier than usual. Meanwhile, private companies are putting together party buses where they are serving drinks and driving around down town in front of those same bars late past closing. So the good Doobie bar owners sit and watch their business going to somebody else who is unregulated. What a shit show.

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