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    I actually mostly advocate restrictions on business. Shut it down. Individuals there is no way to actually police that even though it is literally the only thing public health authorities seem to care about, individual behavior.

    But since it's truly unenforcable, one can report a business in violation but can anyone possible catch all the individuals doing something, of course not. Business behavior is of course not perfectly enforceable, but individual behavior is not enforceable without everyone constantly snitching and keeping perfect watch if a car that doesn't live there parks in the street or etc..

    So public health spends all their energy nagging about things they can't control, with very strict abstinence only nagging that many if not most ignore anyway, since human contact outdoors or in, masked or not, distanced or not, has been basically forbidden 7 out of 9 months of this pandemic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    The churches I know are huge. These are all Catholic Churches built in the 1880s and 1890s as monuments to God and they soar upwards, but they also cover a lot of horizontal space. So 6 foot social distancing is not a problem, easy to do.


    Is that a problem for you though? Will that bring down a fine, all seated 6 feet apart? What if they were seated 10 feet apart? What if they were seated one person in each pew and staggered?
    As stated earlier, there would be no problem if everyone was on the same page. My personal opinion would not matter. It would be outlined what the rules are.

    We all are required to wear seat belts.... why can't this be handled similarly?

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    Yay, it looks like I will get jabbed with the Moderna vaccine next week or the week after.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    Yay, it looks like I will get jabbed with the Moderna vaccine next week or the week after.
    I bet that will be a relief. I hope to get mine around March.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    As stated earlier, there would be no problem if everyone was on the same page. My personal opinion would not matter. It would be outlined what the rules are.

    We all are required to wear seat belts.... why can't this be handled similarly?
    We are not all required to wear seatbelts. We’ve had that discussion here before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    We are not all required to wear seatbelts. We’ve had that discussion here before.
    New Hampshire and American Samoa are the only state and territory without a seat belt law for adults. However, New Hampshire is currently considering a secondary adult seat belt law for all seats.Jul 23, 2020

    ....close enough

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    Maybe everyone whose BMI is high should be forbidden to eat anything containing sugar since obesity causes covid deaths.

    Maybe tobacco should be outlawed since it correlates to lung problems that cause covid deaths.

    No! That will hurt tobacco companies and the sellers of processed foods. And it's not enforceable. Let's do something else instead. Ban airline travel? Very enforceable but it will tick off the airline industry.

    Let's mandate masks even though except for N95 ones specially fitted to one's face they don't stop covid. No special interests to offend there. And people who sell masks will be happy. Society is increasingly secular so let's ban some church services too. Religious people won't put up much of a fight, they are the meek of the earth.

    What else can we do? Make everyone get a vaccine, even those who already had covid. Make them get two doses when only one is needed - double the pharmaceutical profits. Yay!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    I bet that will be a relief. I hope to get mine around March.
    Yes. I've been limiting my work responses to actual fire or rescue calls, and avoiding entirely any routine medical calls. It will be nice to be able to do more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    Just heard on the news that 85 million Americans are going to be traveling this weekend. Ignoring the public health recommendations. This is why we need the ability to assess penalties against people as opposed to trusting people to do the right thing. 25% of the population thinks it’s more important to visit family and friends than keep themself and others safe. The selfish stupidity of so many Americans is astounding.
    I'm currently about 900 miles from home with my wife and our dog. What type of penalties would you like to see enforced against us?

    Quote Originally Posted by Teacher Terry View Post
    It’s like some people live in a cave and don’t watch the news. I don’t know anyone that’s traveling or gathering for Xmas. It’s depressing with the cases so high.
    I watch a lot of news and have elected to travel for Christmas, so, you sort of know me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    I watch a lot of news and have elected to travel for Christmas, so, you sort of know me.
    I'd happily travel this weekend, but my yacht is hanging in slings at the boatyard having the bottom painted, and some engine/electrical maintenance.

    I don't see how I could be more covid-free than at-sea miles away from anyone else. I can live for months unsupported there.

    Now, hopping on a plane and flying to the UK to see my kid, not happening. Plan B for the kid involves a somewhat longer sea voyage....

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