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    ***MOD HAT ON***

    What say everyone stay on the high road here? Sniping and personal bickering tip-toes on the fringe of the forum guidelines, but it can be excruciatingly boring to those not involved who, presumably, come here to discuss political issues. We have a lot riding on this election so it just might be beneficial to direct our scrutiny to the candidates.

    Catwoman, I appreciate your stance on the use of "teabaggers", but that has already been addressed from the mod perspective (link below). If that was not satisfactory please feel free to email me and I will assist you in finding other options to continue your efforts.

    http://www.simplelivingforum.net/sho...Houston/page27

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    Quote Originally Posted by alan View Post
    But you see, that's the problem Peggy, you (and at least one of your sources) are trying to tie her comments into the one thing that most people know about Paul Revere, his famous Midnight Ride. But the fact is, Revere did a little more during his lifetime than Longfellow gave him credit for in the poem.

    Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powder_Alarm for a little background on the events Palin was talking about.



    After the Powder Alarm, militia forces throughout New England were more cautious with their supplies and more intent on gaining information about Gage's plans and troop movements. Paul Revere played a significant role in distributing this information due to his geographical position in Boston, his social position as a middle-class craftsman in contact with all social classes, and his political position as a well-known Patriot propagandist and organizer.[18]



    [edit] The colonists organize

    On September 21, 1774, Patriot leaders met in Worcester and urged town meetings to organize a third of the militias into special companies of minutemen in constant readiness to march.[19] They also instituted the system of express riders and alarms that would prove to be critical at Lexington and Concord.[18] In October, the former legislature of Massachusetts met in defiance of the Massachusetts Government Act and declared itself to be the First Provincial Congress. It created a Committee of Safety modeled after a body with the same name during the English Civil War and it recommended that a quarter of the militia be designated as minutemen.[16] Military stores were to be stockpiled away from the coast (more than a convenient day's march), to make attempts to seize them more difficult. The largest stockpiles were located at Concord and Worcester.[20]
    [edit] Portsmouth Alarm

    Early in December, British military command voted to prohibit the export of arms and powder to North America, and to secure all remaining stores. On December 12, intelligence received by Paul Revere indicated that a seizure of stores at Fort William and Mary in Portsmouth, New Hampshire was imminent. He rode from Boston to Portsmouth the next day to notify the local Patriots, who quickly raided the fort on the 14th and removed its supplies. Revere's intelligence had been incorrect; while a British operation had been contemplated, it had not been ordered. The British did eventually send ships carrying troops to Portsmouth, but they arrived long after the event. The first arrived on the 17th, and was directed into shallows at high tide by a local Patriot pilot, much to the captain's anger.[17]
    Stores of gunpowder—typically referred to by Loyalists as "the King's powder" and by Patriots as "the militia's powder"—were also carried off from forts in Newport, Rhode Island, Providence, Rhode Island, and New London, Connecticut and distributed to the militias in towns away from the coast.[21] Cannon and other supplies were smuggled out of Boston and Charlestown.[22]

    My apologies to everyone else for helping this thread get off track, but some things just need to be disputed.
    Palin was talking about his famous ride and you know it! You keep trying to redirect, but everyone and his dog knows what she was talking about. You can quote his entire biography, but she is an ignorant boob who can see Russia from her house and has to write crib notes on her palm.
    I"m done with this. If you want to deny the truth, that you know, because it doesn't quite jib with Palin's 'truth', well be my guest. Personally I wouldn't want Sarah Palin to trash my credibility, but I guess it's your call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catwoman View Post
    Mountain laurel - demographics have a GREAT deal to do with education statistics in Texas...people I talk education with who are from predominantly white or higher socio-economic states do not understand that it is not an apples to apples comparison. I realize we rank near the bottom in spending per student, true, but there are many other factors at play.
    It's socioeconomic. Not socio-economic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catwoman View Post
    Peggy, I teach ESL, special ed, reading, all subjects to primary kids...What do YOU do for a living? You accuse Perry supporters of blind ideological hatred...not so fast, my hatred is neither blind nor fed to me by Rush or anyone else. It is hatred of ideals and government officials who ram them down your throat when the majority of Americans are against them...Your anti-Christian posts bely your hatred and animosity to anyone who professes to believe differently than you do...might want to get the log out of your eye before you go after the speck in mine...
    It's belie, not bely. FYI

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    My goodness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peggy View Post
    Personally I wouldn't want Sarah Palin to trash my credibility, but I guess it's your call.
    "Things should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." ~ Albert Einstein

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    Or....."people with whom I discuss education" if we're being picky ;-)

    hey.....Iris Lily got me on middle-class.......and for years I thought that the possessive its was its'......and I'm pretty good with spelling and grammar.

    We can probably ALL find something to carp about.......but if we're going to carp, probably better to look at our prospective leaders. Interesting piece in the Christian Science monitor today......Governor Perry may be just a little bit TOO used to speaking to the echo chamber of Texas audiences, and may well have to clean up his act a bit to make it on a national level....and quickly.

    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politic...er-gaffe-prone

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    Your right loose, this is getting a bit silly. Even though I already said before I'm not the most careful in typing or spelling, some seem bent on 'putting me in my place' However there is the whole throwing stones in glass houses thing. I learned a long time ago it will almost always turn around and bite you in the butt.
    I'm calling a truce.

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    I think "proven" would have sounded better than "proved" in the first line of the article.

    Seriously, thanks for the link LC. In the realm of verbal gaffes I doubt anyone alive could make it through a campaign without compiling a long list of such gaffes. The media will show no restraint in pointing them out to us for the coming 15 months. It would be nice if Mr. Perry, Mr. Obama and all the rest would get a chance to give us their spiel, or shpeel as the case may be, without having to be so cautious of every word. Aside from the campaign trail and some days on these forums we all seem to get a little benefit of the doubt if our words aren't perfect. I can't see how the extreme fault-finding (or faultfinding if you prefer) is going to help us get a better person in office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregg View Post
    I think "proven" would have sounded better than "proved" in the first line of the article.

    Seriously, thanks for the link LC. In the realm of verbal gaffes I doubt anyone alive could make it through a campaigns without compiling a long list of such gaffes. The media will show no restraint in pointing them out to us for the coming 15 months. It would be nice if Mr. Perry, Mr. Obama and all the rest would get a chance to give us their spiel, or shpeel as the case may be, without having to be so cautious of every word. Aside from the campaign trail and some days on these forums we all seem to get a little benefit of the doubt if our words aren't perfect. I can't see how the extreme fault-finding (or faultfinding if you prefer) is going to help us get a better person in office.
    I personally am glad that the media will show no restraint, in fact I wish they would be more devoted to showing us the real person instead of waiting for the talking points coming from the different campaigns.

    Just think about it - we are voting on someone that in most cases we have absolutely no idea about and is by most accounts headed for the most powerful position in the world. Much like RICK PERRY who is quite well known in Texas but arguably a stranger to most of America. Only 4% of Texas Republicans say they'd vote for Perry if he were to make a bid for the Oval Office, a new University of Texas/Texas Tribune poll shows. Now that should make the rest of the country pay attention!

    The sad thing for me is that, as you said, most of America is not really interested in the details of the nominees. They would much prefer to make their judgment on their looks, religious attitude, their stand on one of the issues that interests them (guns, gays, abortion, global warming) or even a 15 sec infomercial. Then we get the like of Bush and pay the price for our mistakes. To make matters worse once we make a decision most people, myself included, have a very hard time admitting they made a huge mistake.

    No I am glad that we get to hear the gaffs and such. I think it is probably the only insight we have into our candidates that hasn't been vetted and orchestrated by millions of dollar, campaign gurus, and ads. Like the old saying goes - it someone sounds like a idiot then most likely they are.

    Peace

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