Conavirus......

[jp1]

It's not all about the old people who yppej thinks don't matter. Half the lost life expectancy was in the 25-64 age group.

https://www.healthleadersmedia.com/c...ife-expectancy

"They found that the COVID-19 pandemic resulted in 9.08 million years of excess lost life through March 2021, with 4.67 million years lost by those aged 25 to 64 years."

Off the cuff prediction, all of our health insurance costs are going to soar over the coming years as covid unnecessarily becomes endemic due to the selfish behavior of the unvaxxed.

[Yppej]

It's not all about the old people who yppej thinks don't matter. Half the lost life expectancy was in the 25-64 age group.

https://www.healthleadersmedia.com/c...ife-expectancy

"They found that the COVID-19 pandemic resulted in 9.08 million years of excess lost life through March 2021, with 4.67 million years lost by those aged 25 to 64 years."

Off the cuff prediction, all of our health insurance costs are going to soar over the coming years as covid unnecessarily becomes endemic due to the selfish behavior of the unvaxxed.

Let's say 10 people die of covid. One is a very sick 2 year old on a breathing tube before getting covid, because that is the type of child who dies of it. Don't take my word for it, read the well respected Nature article:

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01897-w

Then say the other 9 are all 75 years old. Life expectancy in the US is 78.7.

Let's round down to the nearest whole number to make the math simple.

So the researcher will say 78 - 2 = 76.
78 - 75 = 3
3 x 9 = 27

27 + 76 = 103

The researcher will then say three quarters of lost life expectancy is among those who are not seniors and it's not just a pandemic of the old.

This ignores that the 2 year old was not going to live a normal lifespan. It ignores the fact that 90% of the fatalities are septuaginarians.

Speaking of ignores, you haven't responded to the article on tuberculosis I asked you about.

[ApatheticNoMore]

Maybe old people's lives are worth more in a sense, as they are generally happier than middle age people, but also happier than young people. So if we are counting number of happy years left the discrepancy may not be that great as number of years left.

[Yppej]

Maybe old people's lives are worth more in a sense, as they are generally happier than middle age people, but also happier than young people. So if we are counting number of happy years left the discrepancy may not be that great as number of years left.

Except that final years can be plagued by painful illness, dementia, loss of autonomy. And in your reasoning wouldn't the younger and middle aged people also have those good older years if they lived?

[jp1]

No matter how you slice it 9 million years of lost life in just one year due to covid is a big ****ing tragedy. That’s an average of nearly 4 months for every man, woman and child in America. It’s not by a long shot just old and frail people. Trying to justify it as no big deal comes across as a remarkable lack of empathy.

[bae]

Just so much wow.

[happystuff]

Let's say 10 people die of covid.

And let's say one of those is your son and another is your mother and another is your father and another is your brother.

Except that final years can be plagued by painful illness, dementia, loss of autonomy. And in your reasoning wouldn't the younger and middle aged people also have those good older years if they lived?

You would still say and feel "Oh, well - their final years can be plagued by painful illness, dementia, loss of autonomy, etc.", that they would eventually die of something anyway?

Continued prayers to you and yours, and that you won't suffer the personal loss of lives that have hit so many.

[boss mare]

Just so much wow.

Yup... Someone doesn't have much self awareness to realize that they are the other side of the same coin as the anti-vaxxers . same song, different verse

[catherine]

On Fareed Zakaria today, he was talking to Sanjay Gupta about COVID, and they both brought up how other countries have done a better job of handling COVID than the US. The topic veered towards respect for the elders in ex-US countries--how in the US the elderly are disposable, not revered, as they are in many other countries. And the Big Question was: if COVID had been a disease that attacked young people, what would the response have been in the US? Would we have responded differently?

I am 69. If I died of COVID my husband would lose his source of income. My young grandchildren would lose a grandmother. I don't mind dying if that's what's on the wall. But I do mind people dismissing my continuing value to this life. I want to live.

But enough about me.

[Yppej]

And let's say one of those is your son and another is your mother and another is your father and another is your brother.

Totally unrealistic scenario as they are all vaccinated and vaccines work. Covid-19 in the US is now a pandemic of the unvaccinated who are choosing to die. By wearing masks to give them a false sense of security people are enabling the irresponsible behavior of the anti-vaxxers. I don't give to panhandlers because I don't want to enable the opioid epidemic and I avoid masked situations because I am not codependent with anti-vaxxers.