Conavirus......

[jp1]

I guess masks don't work the way condoms do. They give a false sense of security that lets people hop on airplanes and jet around among other things.

No. I think a more honest takeaway is that people don't have sex as often as they breathe. You would've gotten along great with the idiots in the gay community that fought the use of condoms in the early days of aids. I'd introduce you to some of them but they've all been dead now for 30-40 years. They were the original "but muh freedumb" folks.

[JaneV2.0]

The lingering effects of COVID may include organ failure, as well.

[Teacher Terry]

There’s not enough organs for everyone and you have to be sober for a lengthy period to get on the list. People with other causes have priority as it should be. You can’t kill your liver in that span of time so guessing people that had a problem for years increased their drinking during the pandemic which finished the job. It’s really sad.

[catherine]

There’s not enough organs for everyone and you have to be sober for a lengthy period to get on the list. People with other causes have priority as it should be. You can’t kill your liver in that span of time so guessing people that had a problem for years increased their drinking during the pandemic which finished the job. It’s really sad.

That's true. I'm curious as to how many women are on that list, as I've heard women are more vulnerable to cirrhosis than men are. And all the promotion by wine companies to women via wine memes--I wouldn't be surprised if women aren't disproportionately represented.

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[Teacher Terry]

When my friend’s 19 year old daughter had a rare liver disease the wait on the west coast was 7 years and she would have been dead. She had to move to Indiana and only waited a month.

[JaneV2.0]

That surprised me, too. A year and a half is a pretty short time to develop end-stage liver disease. Unless you're taking handfuls of acetaminophen and chasing it with booze.

The constant pushing of wine on women as if it's just a cool, harmless indulgence bothers me, as alcohol can not only destroy your liver, it's also a known carcinogen. We managed to PSA cigarettes out of the mainstream, but it seems (often heavy) drinking is back in vogue. (Says someone who likes a tablespoon of spirits in her morning cup occasionally... )

[Yppej]

No. I think a more honest takeaway is that people don't have sex as often as they breathe. You would've gotten along great with the idiots in the gay community that fought the use of condoms in the early days of aids. I'd introduce you to some of them but they've all been dead now for 30-40 years. They were the original "but muh freedumb" folks.

Well before treatments were developed for it AIDS had a 100% mortality rate. Before vaccines were developed for it covid had a 1% mortality rate. Despite this huge difference packing yourself on planes with hundreds of other people during a pandemic is still foolish. But hey, muh freedumb to travel.

[JaneV2.0]

Well before treatments were developed for it AIDS had a 100% mortality rate. Before vaccines were developed for it covid had a 1% mortality rate. Despite this huge difference packing yourself on planes with hundreds of other people during a pandemic is still foolish. But hey, muh freedumb to travel.

It was 3% of infected individuals--at least in this state. Much higher than the flu. That was one of the statistics that convinced me to get vaccinated.

[bae]

Let's see. My last two flights across the Atlantic had 3 people in a 36 person cabin. All vaccinated. All PCR tested negative before travel. All wearing PPE. Lots of airflow. Good wifi.

Oddly, no infections resulted.

[Yppej]

It was 3% of infected individuals--at least in this state. Much higher than the flu. That was one of the statistics that convinced me to get vaccinated.

3% that were tested. Many people who caught it early on before the government admitted it was here weren't tested; others never went for testing because they were mildly symptomatic or asymptomatic, or were not tested because they did not have access to tests, so they are not included in these figures. Not all countries have the resources to robustly test, trying to ferret out every single case.

The tested are more likely to be those with serious outcomes. If you don't even know you are sick why would you get a test unless compelled to?