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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    But no matter, whatever they WaPo says, goes.
    That's what I find so interesting with stories like this, and we see them every day. Someone constructs a story designed to do a specific thing, in this case to make Republican legislatures look bad, then fills it with just enough facts to support the purpose of the article while adding things they've either deliberately, or through lazy research, mis-represented or mis-construed. The story is then published under an impressive banner and it is then picked up by hundreds of other sources who have no interest in verifying its veracity and pretty soon virtually everyone in the demographic the story is designed to appeal to has been given a few tidbits they can then parrot among their like minded friends as facts.

    And that, my dear Iris, is modern journalism in a nut shell.
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    Truth does sometimes seem to be a casualty of polemics. Not every effort to keep an official from exercising powers not given them by law under the pretext of public health is evidence of a crazed death cult. Isn’t it reasonable to assume that if such power grabs are allowed to stand that everything from guns to school lunches will become “public health issues”?

    I’m inclined to agree with Alan on the media. Look at yesterday’s flap over an NPR report that Gorsuch refused a request to wear a mask despite Sotomayor’s health conditions. The three different Supreme Court Justices involved have said Nina Totenberg’s story simply isn’t true, but NPR “stands by it”. Who you gonna believe? Public Radio or your lyin’ eyes?

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    There are very few restrictions except a mask mandate here and it's plenty blue. I mean it's the definition of blue right. You keep obsessing on stuff from years ago (10 years from now this is yeppej: remember that time when I couldn't buy clothes in person 10 years ago ... yea I think about it every day and it makes me angry). Working at home is a company policy, you can be obsessed about what companies you don't work for do I guess but um. I don't prefer to work at the office at all. I've talked to many others who don't want to either. Not that we ever get a say. We are cruely forced to work at the office most years of our lives. I've tried many times to explain in therapy even what it was I found so awful about the white collar office place and never been able to entirely convey how anti-life it's always seemed. Oh well I need money regardless, most jobs don't even pay enough to live on, mine sure does. I don't qualify for free tax preparation lol. If I was rich I wouldn't work, but working at home is a better and different world. And the commute, it's a 10 mile commute, it takes 40 minutes each way.

    I like vegetables and exercise, but since they might be healthy, I guess I should just be complaining about them all the time. Because it's bad to care about your health. It's neurotic and crazy. Caring about my health is wearing a mask and not wanting to get sick. But it gets cast as altruism (not that there is anything wrong with that), or neuroticism, when it's just sensible self-interest. Sheesh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    That's what I find so interesting with stories like this, and we see them every day. Someone constructs a story designed to do a specific thing, in this case to make Republican legislatures look bad, then fills it with just enough facts to support the purpose of the article while adding things they've either deliberately, or through lazy research, mis-represented or mis-construed. The story is then published under an impressive banner and it is then picked up by hundreds of other sources who have no interest in verifying its veracity and pretty soon virtually everyone in the demographic the story is designed to appeal to has been given a few tidbits they can then parrot among their like minded friends as facts.

    And that, my dear Iris, is modern journalism in a nut shell.
    Well then modern journalism sucks. It sucks balls. But we know that, and that is why it’s dying. Too bad real journalists arent following the code they were taught in J school.

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    A mask zealot attacked someone with hot coffee:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...d=winp1taskbar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yppej View Post
    A mask zealot attacked someone with hot coffee:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...d=winp1taskbar
    An American airlines plane turned around mid-flight because a passenger refused to follow airline rules to mask up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    Truth does sometimes seem to be a casualty of polemics. Not every effort to keep an official from exercising powers not given them by law under the pretext of public health is evidence of a crazed death cult. Isn’t it reasonable to assume that if such power grabs are allowed to stand that everything from guns to school lunches will become “public health issues”?

    I’m inclined to agree with Alan on the media. Look at yesterday’s flap over an NPR report that Gorsuch refused a request to wear a mask despite Sotomayor’s health conditions. The three different Supreme Court Justices involved have said Nina Totenberg’s story simply isn’t true, but NPR “stands by it”. Who you gonna believe? Public Radio or your lyin’ eyes?
    Power grab? In WI, when Republicans lost the election and were not yet out of office, managed to get the law changed so the incoming governor did not have the same power. Disgusting.

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    Apparently the Austrian Parliament just passed a universal vaccine mandate for adults. I will call my family in Vienna and ask.as to the consequence of non-compliance with the mandate. I read online that a fine of 600 Euros was being considered - but it's been awhile since I checked in with Austria. Just been busy.
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    This is excellent, what some of us having been doing for nearly 2 years:
    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...andemic-worse/

    Why is the CDC and other government agencies so useless for advice in this pandemic? Who knows? They are evil and trying to get us all killed, they are incompetent, they are in over their heads, they are mired in bureaucracy, they are under-funded, they are over-politicized, they were never designed for a pandemic, they are trying to frame economic advice as public health advice when they have no business getting into economics, they hired the wrong people at the top. Who knows which conjecture is true, who will even investigate? It just is. One just does the best they can in a world where nothing can be trusted. The big open question at this point is long covid IMO.
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    Fauci makes makes millions from investments in China, then lies about gain of function research there to protect them. Every time I see his picture now I cringe.

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