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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    Or you could have read the other study, which I mentioned there is a parallel study/link for, which actually does the analysis you are trying to back-of-the-envelope your way into. A study that actually studies, well, the relevant population.

    Are you talking about the study that shows 31.6% of the population studied has antibodies obtained from having the disease? The link to methodology is called “Commercial lab data” and dated November 18 2021.

    If That’s the one you’re talking about, yes that is certainly different number from 57%. But they’re measuring blood samples from people who go to the doctor. There are plenty of people who had Covid, recovered, have Covid antibodies, and do not go to the doctor And that is mentioned as one of the limitations of their study.

    Here’s a note for anyone reading this post: the study I am talking about in this specific post studied only antibodies obtained from having the disease. It did not measure antibodies gained from a vaccine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore View Post
    Why is it a win? You can catch covid multiple times, maybe without variants, but definitely with variants which we have gotten (lots of people having covid does not mean they have had omicron unless it's recent). You might have some short term immunity. Boosters also seem like they may fade.
    Yes I assume immunity fades over time. And no one seems to know what level of antibodies are required to stave off severe versions of the disease.

    But yes, I consider increasing antibodies in the population at large to be a good thing. I guess if you want to paint it as a glass half empty go ahead and do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    Except Yppej is misrepresenting the data. In particular take note of the population sampled.

    Yppej routinely cherry picks things that they apparently don’t read or understand though, and uses them to advance their narrative.
    I was pointed to this data by a tweet by Dr. Tom Frieden, former head of the CDC. He was also interviewed on NBC Nightly News last night saying he is more optimistic about covid now than he has been at any point in the pandemic.

    But I'm sure that because you work in a small town as a volunteer firefighter that makes you a much bigger public health expert than he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yppej View Post
    I was pointed to this data by a tweet by Dr. Tom Frieden, former head of the CDC. He was also interviewed on NBC Nightly News last night saying he is more optimistic about covid now than he has been at any point in the pandemic.

    But I'm sure that because you work in a small town as a volunteer firefighter that makes you a much bigger public health expert than he is.
    ah well you are just a science denier. THE SCIENCE rules all ‘tho all of the high priests of THE SCIENCE can’t agree on all details. And that is fine, I understand Covid science is complex and evolving. I have patience for CDC backed and reported studies that may show some conflict within the field.

    I have little patience for bludgeoning people with accusations of SCIENCE DENIER when to my eyes anyway, the science isn’t clear on all points of Covid, or even on many points of Covid.

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    We aren't even talking about scientists, but political spokespeople. But yea if someone thinks the vaccine is more dangerous than getting covid without it, it's really hard not to see that as some kind of denial.
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    I want to thank everyone for praying for my son and his family--the baby arrived today via c-section and she is perfectly healthy, as is her Mom, and my son has recovered and is able to be with them in the hospital, so best possible ending, and thank you all. So appreciate your thoughts and prayers!!

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    That’s great news! Thanks for the update.

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    Always good to hear about a happy outcome!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tybee View Post
    I want to thank everyone for praying for my son and his family--the baby arrived today via c-section and she is perfectly healthy, as is her Mom, and my son has recovered and is able to be with them in the hospital, so best possible ending, and thank you all. So appreciate your thoughts and prayers!!
    High fives all around!

    And Hoping Alan's family is on the mend, too.

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    Wonderful! And welcome to the newest addition to your family!
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