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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    Again, the claim that “94% of Americans” have antibodies is simply incorrect. Yppej is quoting a number which is not representative of the entire US population. And when challenged on it, resorts to sophistry.

    Yppej also claims 99.99% have antibodies now. This doesn’t even hold up to basic critical reasoning skills. Grab the back of an envelope and ask:

    What is the population of the USA? What is 0.01% of that population? How many new Covid cases do we have a day now?

    What does that tell you?
    What Bae means is, only reported cases count. The people who are asymptomatic and have no idea they have covid don't count. The mildly symptomatic who think they just have a cold and don't get tested don't count. The people who suspect they have covid but can't take off work don't count. The people who are sick but figure it must be the flu because they already had covid don't count. The kids whose parents don't test them because who would watch them when they can't get off work don't count. My former classmate who has had covid twice per home tests but won't report them to the government because he doesn't want to be in their database doesn't count. Only cases the government knows about and counts matter.

    Interesting how the fearmongers work. Earlier it was covid is much more prevalent than reported - be scared. Now that everyone is getting it, the story has changed to it's overcounted. Whatever narrative will induce panic, paranoia, and most importantly compliance with the dictates of a medical pharma industrial complex is the one they'll go with.

    The fear must stay in place until a vaccine for little kids is rolled out - there's some money to be made vaxxing them. With the Supreme Court stopping the employer mandate adults are a dead end. So once the kiddie vaccines are rolled out we can get back to normal - until the next overhyped pandemic.

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    As I said, sophistry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    Again, the claim that “94% of Americans” have antibodies is simply incorrect. Yppej is quoting a number which is not representative of the entire US population. And when challenged on it, resorts to sophistry.

    Yppej also claims 99.99% have antibodies now. This doesn’t even hold up to basic critical reasoning skills. Grab the back of an envelope and ask:

    What is the population of the USA? What is 0.01% of that population? How many new Covid cases do we have a day now?

    What does that tell you?
    Off the top of my head, something like 1/5 of Covid patients admitted to the hospital (for Covid specific treatment? I do not know) have been vaccinated.

    that is of course not the number of people infected as you mention, but it is a good measure to look at because it is more of a controlled group with (presumably) accurate test results. Those getting Covid and not reporting at all…yeah, a lot more.

    There is a lot of Covid around, I am not denying that.
    and I think it is a lot.

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    Chad the guy that won’t get it to have his transplant is a idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teacher Terry View Post
    Chad the guy that won’t get it to have his transplant is a idiot.
    Yes. Of all the possible things worth making a point this isn't the hill I would personally die on. Literally. But maybe as he’s lying on his deathbed he’ll self righteously say to himself ‘but at least they didn’t give me that life saving vaccine. I’ve shown them what freedumb means!’

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    It's interesting that in Brazil despite their anti-vax president Bolsinaro there is very low vaccine hesitancy.

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021...i-vaxxers.html

    When you build a system based on healthcare being a right rather than a privilege only granted to you when it benefits the big pharma medical industrial complex, people trust you. Who woulda thunk?

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    I don't understand "we're all going to get it either". It seems a bit too pessimistic about the prospect of Omicron specific vaccines even if though they are working on them. I understand not putting everything off and all. But we're for sure all going to get it before we get Omicron specific boosters?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore View Post
    I don't understand "we're all going to get it either". It seems a bit too pessimistic about the prospect of Omicron specific vaccines even if though they are working on them. I understand not putting everything off and all. But we're for sure all going to get it before we get Omicron specific boosters?
    hunh, what in this whole Covid circus is “for sure?”

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    Well people are just casually tossing off "we're all going to get it". Like where does that even come from? Except being tired of pandemic and wishing one had never heard the word coronavirus.
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    If I get it, the rest of the population is doomed.

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